Reactivity on a classic valve, whoah!!

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  • Dawg047
    Registered User

    • Oct 2003
    • 821

    #1

    Reactivity on a classic valve, whoah!!

    Hey everyone, I just put my new Minimag valve that I got from Tuna forever ago in today and played, it shot beautifully. I took it apart, lubed everything with white lithium grease, my on/off oring, the reg piston o-ring, and ran some autolube thru it to make sure everything was working good before I put it away. I always run nitro on my markers and I had about 3000psi. left. So I was shooting it, and I noticed the trigger was a bit lighter. I then slowly pulled the trigger back half wayand the gun kicked it back and shot again. I was like, what!!! I then shot it normally and it shot perfect, then I sort of sort stroked the gun to see what it did and the trigger pushed back and fired like on my RT, I was like what!!!! Then I was messing around with the trigger and if I don't pull it back all the way, istead of shot stroking, it kicks backs and fires. So I am like cool, so I put my Halo on and start fanning the trigger, not pulling it back all the way and the thing rips like crazy. It gets the occasional shootdown but I was running low on air. I think I had it doing 12 to 14. Now, I know you don't believe me but it was. I have never had an automag do this before (I have had 10) and I think it is sweet. Its kind of like pull back all the way to shoot normal, pull it back half way and it gets reactive. I took it apart to make sure nothing was out of place and everything looks great. Oh well, here are the specs I have on it:
    AGD ULE Body
    AGD Intelliframe w/problade
    AGD MM rail
    Minimag "Center Fire Mag" #0218 classic valve
    Proteam "NUT" barrel
  • Tunaman
    Specialized AGD Tech

    • Dec 2000
    • 8643

    #2
    Obviously, knowing where to buy the "good stuff" helps! WOOT! :D ;)
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    Tunamart

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    • Dawg047
      Registered User

      • Oct 2003
      • 821

      #3
      Tuna, you crafty wizard you. Yeah but I'm serious, it has reactivity like crazy. Has any one else ever had a classic do this? I will show those litle kids with their $1500 Intimidators whose boss at the field now :rolleyes: Wait ,I was always the boss :rofl:

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      • DarkKnight
        Registered User
        • Sep 2005
        • 10

        #4
        Originally posted by Dawg047
        Tuna, you crafty wizard you. Yeah but I'm serious, it has reactivity like crazy. Has any one else ever had a classic do this? I will show those litle kids with their $1500 Intimidators whose boss at the field now :rolleyes: Wait ,I was always the boss :rofl:

        I actually had that on a P/F Automag I first purchased, it seemed to only happen when the situation was just right though... I would go nutz when it did it though... If it would have been consistent like that I would have kept it.

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        • xballfan780
          Behold the power of a Mag
          • Dec 2004
          • 135

          #5
          Tuna you crazy fish. What did you do to it ? Do tell

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          • barjohn
            Registered User
            • Jul 2005
            • 87

            #6
            Lithium grease is good to use on the regulator? Would oil ment for ( air tools ) work on a paintball gun ?

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            • Tunaman
              Specialized AGD Tech

              • Dec 2000
              • 8643

              #7
              Originally posted by barjohn
              Lithium grease is good to use on the regulator? Would oil ment for ( air tools ) work on a paintball gun ?
              any grease on the back springs is fine. Its only to keep them from rusting. Using airtool oil on the orings is fine. ;)
              Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
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              • Dawg047
                Registered User

                • Oct 2003
                • 821

                #8
                I use lithium grease on the spring pack and the on/off o-rings. It works great. I run air-tool oil through sometimes(looks and feels alomost like autolube or gold cup) and it works great as well. I like to have everything lubed up, that way when I hook up air, I don't get any suprises ;) You know what is funny is, I have shot this valve once before and it didnt do this. Just the other day I through a tiny electro board in my intelliframe to make people think it was electro. I told them it will shoot real fast now. Then you know what, it starts this reactivity thing. Must be the board :rolleyes: This is not just like a every now and then thing. It is like RT 24/7. I have taken the valve apart twice and cleaned it to make sure this was not just some spur of godliness but it still does it. Soweeeet!!!!!!!!

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                • 1337caesar
                  Da 1337 Machine
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 238

                  #9
                  my classic has the reactivity of an Rt, I can sweet spot it and everything. I havent has another classic to compare it to but it seems to be exatly the same effect as my friends rt valve.

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                  • Dawg047
                    Registered User

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 821

                    #10
                    Yep, same here, but the funny thing is, just like an RT, it will only work with nitro. It won't go reactive with C02 becuase just like an RT, I don't think it can recharge fast enough.

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                    • 1337caesar
                      Da 1337 Machine
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 238

                      #11
                      Ive never tried co2, I wonder if you could get more reactivity with an adjustable tank too...

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                      • CaptainFuzzy
                        ohhh you schmuck!
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 38

                        #12
                        I'd think if there was more pressure forcing itself into the valve the valve would want to dump it faster... so yeah I would think it would be faster with a higher pressured tank.
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                        • 1337caesar
                          Da 1337 Machine
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 238

                          #13
                          I think i should paint my classic valve to look like an x and see if a rt mag user would tell the difference

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                          • Maggot6
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1527

                            #14
                            My classic is sort of like that, but the balls always go 10 feet shorter, but I can get to kick back.

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