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  • Kyle.Kimber
    Resident Sexologist
    • Dec 2005
    • 460

    #1

    Air Efficiency

    Automags are known for their large air consumption. Is there anyway to combat this problem, or am I just going to have to deal with it?

    Thanks
  • Dayspring
    aka- The Day Wang

    • May 2001
    • 9664

    #2
    Buy a bigger/higher pressure tank.

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    • MagPride
      BunkerRat
      • Jan 2006
      • 29

      #3
      or, just deal ive never run out in a game wheni was playing scenarios, just when u run out of paint get killed or theres a break between scenarios just fill it up, i mean its not like u only get 200 shots out of a tank

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      • Kyle.Kimber
        Resident Sexologist
        • Dec 2005
        • 460

        #4
        Originally posted by MagPride
        or, just deal ive never run out in a game wheni was playing scenarios, just when u run out of paint get killed or theres a break between scenarios just fill it up, i mean its not like u only get 200 shots out of a tank
        Actually, I get about 700. My mag was leaking, so I sent it to an Airgun tech. The leaking is gone, but now I'm getting only 700 shots out of a 3000 psi tank.

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        • AnthonyW
          Registered User

          • Jan 2004
          • 155

          #5
          Heck I can get at least 800 rounds out of my Mag. My fields offers free fills with a days play . I use an 88ci 3000.

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          • 11 Bravo
            Predatored Karta Mag
            • May 2005
            • 1247

            #6
            Get a 68/4500. I get over 1,000 shots per fill and never run out during a game.

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            • jamesmbaldwin
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 26

              #7
              I just bought two 47/3000's how much should I get out of them?

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              • Dayspring
                aka- The Day Wang

                • May 2001
                • 9664

                #8
                Not alot.

                Figure 10 shots per cubic inch on a 3000psi system.

                Figure 15 shots per cubic inch on a 4500psi system.

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                • warbeak2099
                  That is my foot!
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4447

                  #9
                  700 shots off your 68/3k tank? Yea, that's what I get. That's what you're supposed to get. There isn't a problem, your mag is working just how it should.
                  My Feedback

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                  • jamesmbaldwin
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 26

                    #10
                    that should be good since I got 4 of them.

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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AnthonyW
                      Heck I can get at least 800 rounds out of my Mag. My fields offers free fills with a days play . I use an 88ci 3000.
                      I get over 1100 shots on my 88/3000 on my emag.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                      • Kyle.Kimber
                        Resident Sexologist
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 460

                        #12
                        Actually, I got a refill and I am only getting 300 shots per tank now. Sorry for the misinformation.

                        I HAVE AN AUTOMAG RT WITH THE ORIGINAL VALVE and LEVEL 10 BOLT.

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                        • tae
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by athomas
                          I get over 1100 shots on my 88/3000 on my emag.


                          Would you share your tips?

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                          • athomas
                            Of course it works-its AGD
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8039

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tae


                            Would you share your tips?
                            Its not really rocket science. I do use a level 10 bolt with the red spring. It is well tuned. If I couldn't find a proper fitting oring carrier combination, I kept changing orings until I found one that worked.

                            I keep my velocity set to about 280fps. Going higher consumes much more air for minimal gain in distance or impact.

                            I use a 12" or a 16" barrel that is stepped(.695" step) but the porting doesn't start until 6" from the back(only 4 holes from 6 - 8 inches). The barrel porting is small with only 12 holes total until you get to the muzzle brake. The tiny porting actually allows the barrel to maintain pressure behind the ball so it quiets it down without sacrificing a lot of gas efficiency. You can feel the pressure if you take the muzzle brake off and blow through the barrel. I also make sure the barrel insert fits the balls I am using. I tend to err on the large size for best consistency. Overall, I think ported barrels that don't fit the balls are the single largest contributors to inefficient gun setups.
                            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                            • tae
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 275

                              #15
                              Thanks! What you said about velocity is very interesting, makes me want to do some experimenting.

                              I just got a lvl10 used for me lady. It needs tuning, but the bloke hasnt sent the rest of the parts.

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