New E-Mag Breaks Balls at Low PSI

[Chrishew09]

So, I just bought my first E-mag and let me start by saying I am in love with it couldn't ask for anything more from a marker.
Anyway I noticed this past weekend that when the pressure in my tank go low around 900PSI that the LVL10 began to act weird and I was breaking balls in the breach, but this only happened when I was fanning the trigger. I kind of understand why this is happening but not sure just want someone elses opinion.
I play at a small field and we get our air from a scuba tank so I am lucky if I fill my 45/88 to 1500psi, needless to say I have to fill my tank after every game.

LMK

[11 Bravo]

What lvl 10 spring are you using? It still shouldnt break balls just because you're low on air though.

I am just kind of guessing but I would suggest you put in the red spring and make sure you have 2 maybe 3 shims in the lvl 10. See what that does.

[Chrishew09]

I am using the longest spring with two shims.

[Tunaman]

It is very possible that your gauge is not reading right. It may be off by a few hundred psi. If that is the case, you are going deeper into the tank then you think and that is why its dropping off. Fill the tank to check it.

[Chrishew09]

It is very possible that your gauge is not reading right. It may be off by a few hundred psi. If that is the case, you are going deeper into the tank then you think and that is why its dropping off. Fill the tank to check it.

Tuna-
Your prob. right I know that the gauage on my pure energy tank isn't that accurate, and if I get a compleate fill on the tank then I have no problems.
I was just wondering why the lvl10 is breaking paint at low pressrue, I would think that it just wouldn't fire.
What u think?

[atm743]

you shouldent be using the large spring unless you going right at 300 FPS or higher. the larger spring is ment for custom size'd springs. like cutting it to fit right for you.

if i were you i would use the small spring unless you shooting over 375 FPS then i would take the large spring and cut it a little soo it shoots with out drop off but at the same time be light if a paint for no chops.

i did this a while ago when i had my emag and i loved it. i had my bolt nice and lite soo i would NEVER chop paint but at the same time it would not short stroke or do the level 10 "cuff" in high rate of fire when your getting low on air.


but because if this reason thats why i sold my emag and got a viking than an excalibur

i can shoot my gun with paint till my tank gets on the 0 well before my take has less than my lpr psi which is at 70

yeah

[Tunaman]

The above is correct. Most guns will not shoot reliably with the long spring. I always use the red spring or the short spring. I NEVER use the long spring. Get it out of there and re tune the level 10. Let us know...

[Chrishew09]

Thanks for the advise I will give it a try, but first I need to get some air.


Wait, so I looked at the springs i have theres a silver, red, and gold one.
Silver - Longest
Red- Middle
Gold - Shortest
The gold one looks to me like it was cut before, I dont know if I mention this before but I bought it used.
In any case I have the silver one installed.

LMK

[11 Bravo]

Yeh you got it right.

silver = longest
red = middle
gold = shortest (stock)



The gold spring should look the same on both ends. If not it probably was cut.

[Chrishew09]

Yeh you got it right.

silver = longest
red = middle
gold = shortest (stock)



The gold spring should look the same on both ends. If not it probably was cut.

The gold one looks like it was put against a grinder?
Anyway I have the silver spring in there and I have no problems when the tank pressure is above 900psi, and the bolt bounces off paint very easily.
In order for me to put the Red spring in I need a larger O-ring in the carrier for less resistance, but if I go any larger air leaks out.
So far the silver spring and the carrier with two lines in it seems to be working for me.

What do you think?

[11 Bravo]

Try cutting the silver spring down a little bit.

[Chrishew09]

I tried putting the shorter spring in but the spring pressure wasn't great enough to reset the bolt...????

[atm743]

I tried putting the shorter spring in but the spring pressure wasn't great enough to reset the bolt...????

volocity is too high because of it needing to be high from the large bolt spring

lower the volocity nut but turning it left about a half a turn or mabey a little more

[rb211]

Any way you look at it, you are probably going to have to re-tune the LVL X as Tuna stated. The o-ring shouldn't matter, you will probably have to change carriers if anything. Try the red one and lower your velocity. If it leaks, go down a carrier until it stops.

[Chrishew09]

Any way you look at it, you are probably going to have to re-tune the LVL X as Tuna stated. The o-ring shouldn't matter, you will probably have to change carriers if anything. Try the red one and lower your velocity. If it leaks, go down a carrier until it stops.

The guy I bought my emag from gave me an asortment of o-rings and carriers but I noticed that some of the carriers are missing the o-rings inside. So there is only one carrier that seals the bolt from leaking.
Maybe I need to buy some new carriers from AGD?