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  • Earthy
    Earthy
    • Aug 2004
    • 151

    #1

    Brass vs Stainless

    Which are best to use in an x-valve, brass fittings for ss hose or stainless steel fittings? I'm afraid that the ss fitting might strip the aluminum valve.
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  • Dayspring
    aka- The Day Wang

    • May 2001
    • 9664

    #2
    If you thread it on correctly, then it doesn't matter.

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    • 11 Bravo
      Predatored Karta Mag
      • May 2005
      • 1247

      #3
      Use macro line. Its much better.

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      • Dayspring
        aka- The Day Wang

        • May 2001
        • 9664

        #4
        How do you figure? Unless you get quality macro line (which most players don't) it has a burst pressure lower than the operating pressure of the mag.

        I use Stainless Steel braid on EVERYTHING. No exceptions.

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        • 11 Bravo
          Predatored Karta Mag
          • May 2005
          • 1247

          #5
          I have 6 mags and they all have the macro line. I have never had a problem and have also cranked the tank up to 1,100 psi (not recommended).
          Most every marker on the planet uses macro line coming from the asa and they dont have problems either. Join this century. Quit living in the '90s.

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          • Dayspring
            aka- The Day Wang

            • May 2001
            • 9664

            #6
            #1- Look at the pressure rating on your macro line. On "most" guns that are being used, they use a low pressure tank output. Roughly 450psi. That's not much over the standard macro line rating. Mags use twice that. No thank you.

            #2- Most players use cheap macro line. How many go and buy the Parker stuff? Not many. They probably get a bunch of the cheap 32 degrees stuff. Look at that- it's thin on one side, and thick on another. IT'S A TUBE. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME WIDTH ON ALL SIDES.

            #3- Just because YOU haven't had problems doesn't mean that they don't happen to other people.

            #4- Nothing wrong with over-engineering something. Case in point- AGD.

            #5- I'm perfectly in this century, have a low-pressure operating gun and all. But guess what kind of line I run? Stainless. It's personal preference. It may not be YOUR preference, but it IS a valid choice. And in my opinion, a superior choice in regards to the negative sides of Macro.

            Originally posted by 11 Bravo
            I have 6 mags and they all have the macro line. I have never had a problem and have also cranked the tank up to 1,100 psi (not recommended).
            Most every marker on the planet uses macro line coming from the asa and they dont have problems either. Join this century. Quit living in the '90s.

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            • 11 Bravo
              Predatored Karta Mag
              • May 2005
              • 1247

              #7
              [QUOTE=Dayspring]#1- Look at the pressure rating on your macro line. On "most" guns that are being used, they use a low pressure tank output. Roughly 450psi.

              Thats not so. Most of the bottles out there on those guns are putting out around 850 psi. I checked all this out before I went to macro line.

              Sure they are lower pressure guns but most use regular output bottles and regulate it down with the reg on the marker.

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              • camilion705
                Orange County, CA
                • Sep 2003
                • 717

                #8
                I had a macro burst before... I couldnt hear anything but the loud ringing in my ears and my vision became oddly blurred for a few moments. Everything went into slow motion for what felt like a pretty long time also.

                Do I still use macro today with my 800psi output tank?

                Yep. Why? Its way more convenient to take off when teching the marker, lighter, looks better, and is less expensive.

                This is the only incident in my entire paintball history and I wouldn't call it dangerous at all, of course it was quite inconvenient since I had to go buy another piece in order to play again...
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                • JeepinCalifornia
                  Blazin 1BPS Phantom style!
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 28

                  #9
                  With all the good luck people have had with macro, maybe it's not so bad; statistically speaking. I'm one on the other side, however, and have had nothing but bad luck with the macro. So, despite the extra effort, I use SS on everything...I'll never have macro hoses or fittings (yes, fittings) fail on me again.

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                  • FinchMan
                    LVL10 classic minimag
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 459

                    #10
                    heh heh heh

                    I think the original question was answered, and the thread was hijacked...

                    so I say, go get SS hardline!!! (there's last century for ya, but it still looks badass!)

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                    • Earthy
                      Earthy
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 151

                      #11
                      Before this thread gets too hijacked ... how about some of you ss hose users letting me know if you've had any problem using steel fittings. And as for macroline, I have it on my mag now (the stuff Squid sells in the dealer form). Have I ever had problems with it, no. Have I heard about macro bursting, yes. Have I evn heard of ss hose bursting, no. Considering this I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I like the look of both (as long as the ss hose is an appropriate length - nothing like using 12 hose to go from valve to vertical adapter )
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                      • Dayspring
                        aka- The Day Wang

                        • May 2001
                        • 9664

                        #12
                        I've used brass, aluminum and stainless fittings before. No problems either way.

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                        • REDRT
                          Mags, Y use anything else
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1854

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Earthy
                          Which are best to use in an x-valve, brass fittings for ss hose or stainless steel fittings? I'm afraid that the ss fitting might strip the aluminum valve.
                          Pretty much owner preference, either will work fine. Don't forget about aluminum also. Just for the sake of argue, "I to use the ss line". Never had luck with macro. Always blowing up at the worst time.

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                          • Beemer
                            I could tell you but then.

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3250

                            #14
                            To start on topic

                            Originally posted by Earthy
                            Which are best to use in an x-valve, brass fittings for ss hose or stainless steel fittings? I'm afraid that the ss fitting might strip the aluminum valve.
                            Whats best is whats rated. I have used the brass and stainless. Just use a QD on the 90 and once its in you dont have to remove it. Ya you can strip it if you OVER torque or cross it. What about the field strip screw? Its stainless. Carefull now


                            Originally posted by Dayspring
                            I use Stainless Steel braid on EVERYTHING. No exceptions

                            #3- Just because YOU haven't had problems doesn't mean that they don't happen to other people.
                            #4- Nothing wrong with over-engineering something. Case in point- AGD.
                            #5- I'm perfectly in this century, have a low-pressure operating gun and all. But guess what kind of line I run? Stainless.

                            I've used brass, aluminum and stainless fittings before. No problems either way.
                            Yupper SS braid on Everything. I do have some Non SS but it is rated at 3000psi WP

                            Yup It DOES happen to other people.

                            Nothing wrong with over engineering when it comes to SAFETY

                            Where did ya get aluminum? [rated]

                            What kind of cookie ya want or brew?



                            Originally posted by camilion705
                            I had a macro burst before... I couldnt hear anything but the loud ringing in my ears and my vision became oddly blurred for a few moments. Everything went into slow motion for what felt like a pretty long time also.

                            Do I still use macro today with my 800psi output tank?

                            Yep. Why? Its way more convenient to take off when teching the marker, lighter, looks better, and is less expensive.

                            This is the only incident in my entire paintball history and I wouldn't call it dangerous at all, of course it was quite inconvenient since I had to go buy another piece in order to play again...
                            Why???????? After that happened. I can get my QD off as fast and as easy as you can. SS and or heat shrink is Macho[looks better] and Safety has no expense, Oh wait yes it does. How much is an Eye worth? When will you call it Dangerous?
                            Arent you supposed to Learn from experience?

                            No cookie 4 u


                            Originally posted by JeepinCalifornia
                            I use SS on everything...I'll never have macro hoses or fittings (yes, fittings) fail on me again.
                            simple enough eh

                            I have a cookie for you to. What flavor ya want?

                            Originally posted by REDRT
                            "I to use the ss line". Never had luck with macro. Always blowing up at the worst time.
                            Noooooo that just doesnt happen. That other guy says his never Blows.

                            I have to go get more cookies, what kind ya want?

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                            • fred1
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 62

                              #15
                              use SS brass is ugly, i have never seen macro burst, i've been playing for like 6 years and almost everyone around here uses macro....unless there gun came with something else.

                              OT but could someone plz say the pressure rating of macro or PM me with it, thanks
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