Mag won't fire!

[Shotcaller509]

Seer

Sisco It is all in the seer trust me. You have to adjust the rod at the end of the seer. Like kingpen said you have to heat the rod up with a lighter to melt the locktight and when it melts hot enough then you turn it clockwise to shorten or counter clockwise to make it longer. It sounds like the way you have the seer rod you wont get any valve rockin the way you want it. I am on the same team as kingpen and that valve was used flawlessly by us. It is the best tuned valve with a ULT you can get. If you dont believe me tell it to the trophy Like Kingpen said if you need your gun adjusted send it to him. He is well trusted in this forum just look at his feedback. Ive seen this man finely tune so many mags its unbelievable. Just a thought. Laterz, and good luck with the seer.

[kingpen509]

Your going to have to excuse my friend he's a little a slow!

Sisco It is all in the seer trust me. You have to adjust the rod at the end of the seer. Like kingpen said you have to heat the rod up with a lighter to melt the locktight and when it melts hot enough then you turn it clockwise to shorten or counter clockwise to make it longer. It sounds like the way you have the seer rod you wont get any valve rockin the way you want it. I am on the same team as kingpen and that valve was used flawlessly by us. It is the best tuned valve with a ULT you can get. If you dont believe me tell it to the trophy Like Kingpen said if you need your gun adjusted send it to him. He is well trusted in this forum just look at his feedback. Ive seen this man finely tune so many mags its unbelievable. Just a thought. Laterz, and good luck with the seer.

[Shotcaller509]

Slow

Yea Im so slow!! don't you know they call me Rain Man Duh duh duh

Your going to have to excuse my friend he's a little a slow!

[Walrus]

Definately take 10 - 15 minutes and adjust the crap out of the trigger rod. I had the same issue with my classic Mag when I put a new DYE 45 frame on it. There was so much of a difference between it and the stock frame that I had to completely re-adjust the trigger rod (I think screwing it in more). You need to make sure that when your gun is gassed up, there should be a 1/16" or roughly a 1mm gap between the end of the rod and the back of your trigger if your trigger is all the way forward. If you are using trigger stops, then I suggest backing those off until you get your trigger working right. Give it a try before giving up and sending it to someone.

[sisco87]

lol

Thanks you guys. I'll try giving the rod another try at adjusting it. Last time i tried heating with a lighter and trying to turn it, didn't buge. (Even took plying to it, to get a tighter grip)
So i may have to get a new sear, if i can't adjust this one.

[kingpen509]

Before you buy a new sear keep in mind that they are all locktighted from the factory. So I would just bust out the heat torch and blaze that sucker before I forked out another penny for a non-broken item!

[sisco87]

Ok, so i melted the glue away and now have the sear arm adjusting!

But now, i adjusted it in so the arm length was smaller and there's leaking down the barrel now, and it only stops when i press and hold the trigger down....
So should i make the arm length longer or shorter? (or is it the arm length?)

[kingpen509]

The leak could have something to do with the arm length but never mind that for now is the marker firing? If not adjust the arm in and out (try and remember the gap that needed..specs up above) until the marker starts firing consistantly and then if its still leaking deal with that issue.

[sisco87]

Yeah, it is shooting. Just leaks too.
And I noticed when i did push the valve against the body to get rid of the small gap....it didn't leak as much or at all. idk

Also, i was talking to another guy from here who seemed to know a lot, but he was saying i shouldn't be messing with the arm length and it could mess it up. he wasn't making to much sense.

Aren't there 4 shims in it kingpen? Wouldn't taking one or some out help with anything?

[jhyanathan]

I am having basically the exact same problem. I have the gap between the valve and body as well. When I put the gun back together I can jam the body and valve together and it shoots fine, for about a dozen shots until the gap widens and it stops shooting.

[Coralis]

I am having basically the exact same problem. I have the gap between the valve and body as well. When I put the gun back together I can jam the body and valve together and it shoots fine, for about a dozen shots until the gap widens and it stops shooting.

Check your rail bushing which is this part here it might be worn or missing if you are having problems with the valve moving too far also check the z lock pin that go on the back half of the valve some people take them out to make removing the valve easier , also look at the back of the rail where the pin would sit and make sure its not damaged. If damaged and the gun wont shot reliable you may have no recourse other than buying another rail. rail bushing

Also, i was talking to another guy from here who seemed to know a lot, but he was saying i shouldn't be messing with the arm length and it could mess it up. he wasn't making to much sense.

what is referring to is back in the day before all the aftermarket products were made for the mag people would adjust that pin to take out the little bit of "slop" in the trigger in the attempt to shorten the pull and thus increase their rate of fire , usually all the ended up doing was messing up their guns so they didnt shoot . You on the other hand have pieced together a mag and it isnt shooting so you are fine to adjust the trigger rod. Also now that you have some leakage down the barrel and its shooting try removing shims in the Level 10 and see if that clears the problem

[jhyanathan]

Thanks for the tip. I have a logic alpha rail, hope I don't have to try and replace it :P. I'll check the bushing tonight to see if it's worn.

There is a pin in the valve that sticks out about 1/8 inch, and it looks fine, as well as the the slot it goes in.

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[jhyanathan]

Wow... I read an old thread on here about tuning the ult... and someone said how oiling the crap out of the mag made it work... so I oiled the crap out of it.... and it works!

[sisco87]

Wow... I read an old thread on here about tuning the ult... and someone said how oiling the crap out of the mag made it work... so I oiled the crap out of it.... and it works!

i'll have to try that...but i actually can't right now since i dont have a body. A blue ULE one should be coming to me though.

[jhyanathan]

mmmm, blue ULE. Oh wait, mines a blue ULE. Someone said they were rare, that's hard to believe, I've seen a lot of them around.