Pump Gun Help Plz look quick

[pablo4429]

hey
i was thinking about getting a minimag stock and upgrading it to shoot as fast as i could. but then i thought that i am going to be going to college soon and i still wanna paintball so 60-80 doallars per time wont be that practical so im thinking about getting a pump. I was wondering how fun they are and if its a love it or hate it kinda thing. unfortunatley i have never played with one and only seen like 2 cuz my freinds like going as fast as possible and accuracy by volume.

so
could i get a decent pump for like 200 or 250 i would like a mag pump (i like the simplicity of the mag design) but wouldnt be opposed to something different but just as effective and good looking. are they a pain to find becasue there dont seem to be that many in the classifieds or do you just have to know where to look? are you kinda of forced to be a back player becasue you shoot so slow or is front ok to play with (what i do now). i am also primarily a woodsball player if that makes any difference.

any info from previous pump players would be great or any info period would be nice too.


thanks
paul


also what are good brands to look out for and how much does a good barrel set go for (like with the paint matching barrell and the after barrell 9sorry dont know the exact names ))

[hobbesTZ]

They are a pain to find, I've seen prices around $350. Personally, I think you'd be best off with a Phantom or a Sniper. The Phantom is a great gun because it's CO2 compatible and there are a ton of ways you can set it up to suit your mood.

[pablo4429]

can phantoms change barrells cuz all the pics ive been looking at look to have the same barrells

is the Sniper an autococker

[hobbesTZ]

The really old Phantoms have the body and barrel as one piece, but on the vast majority of Phantoms you can change the barrel. The stock barrel is really good, and you can use the detent rings with it. That's the most cost effective way, but I don't think it works well at all unless you use really good paint. And yes, snipers are pump autocockers.

[pablo4429]

im liking the autococker look more than the phantom anybody know of any reliability or like issues to be concerned with?

[pablo4429]

is the inconstistency with CO2 (small tanks and 12 grams) a big deal with pumps cuz i cant find any HPA tanks that are small

[TheGrindPunk]

i cant find any HPA tanks that are small

Here is a 13cu hpa tank........ this is the only place I have found them at, and they're expensive, but check it out, you might be able to find them cheaper somewhere else.

http://www.rustyspaintballgear.com/rs/catalog/details.asp?ID_Wep=67

[Cash]

if you like mags go for a phantom its a single tube gun with the valve in the back just like a mag i have used a phantom only for a year now and i never regret it this is my second one and well the are reliable never break down and be the way dont use hpa on phantom they dont need it they are built for c02 and never need hpa, they are even louder on hpa

as for the barrel its one of the best barrels in the buisness it has a .690 bore size and is perfect but if you want after market you can get lapco barrel(i highly recomend them) you can find older dye barrels but those are pricey, j&j makes barrels for them, white wolf does both frantom (freak kit in a phantom barrel) and stock barrels bored to accept freak inserts, and ccm makes carbon fiber barrels for them, also cci made a carbojn fiber barrel very nice and very expensive wond go for under 200 if you find one, and then there are many others but not massed produced

sorry for grammer

[peewee]

Here's a line on one. Also Hit up wevo (stock class apintball .com), Joe at white wolf airsmithing, or angelpena at the phog site if you want a great deal.. All three are good .

http://www.bunkerboyz.com/phog/showthread.php?t=2106

[psychowarden]

Any dealer at the Phog is going to be your best bet on pump gear at good prices, and reliability as well. I cant really reccomend Joe at Whitewolf, I tried contacting about just a simple order on a barrel, and he never got back to me.

[Cash]

order from wevo it will get to you within 3 days and hes just an awesome guy www.wevopaintball.com or pm him at www.stockclasspaintaball.com

[pablo4429]

thanks for all the replys guys
so the consensus is to go with a phantom?

i kept looking and they arent that bad looking after all

and they look simple as hell to operate (the inner workings)

also how exaclty do the balls go into the gun , i know from the top but is there a spring in the tube or is it just gravity? cuz it seems like you would have to be parralle or pointing down a little bit to keep getting balls?

[Jaan]

is the Sniper an autococker

The Autococker is a Sniper actually (c: It's a modified Sniper pump, that's what all that plumbing on the front does, takes the place of a pump.

I have a 'Cocker with a White Wolf Airsmithing pump and it's awesome. I played with it just yesterday. It's as nice as it gets.

The thing is about 'Cockers these days ... they're cheap and easy to find. Even high end ones are cheap used, they seem to have gone out of fashion. There's gotta be like, a million out there. The pump handles themselves are $30 to $60 dollars, which isn't bad at all. Of course, there are also a million upgrades you can do to a 'Cocker too.


Price to performance ratio ... I don't think you can beat a Sniper.

[pablo4429]

i really want a phantom but it think i will be getting a sniper becase of what was said above (price and avalibiltiy of parts)

and from what ive heard the gun doesnt make that mcuh of a diff on accuracy only the barrels and the boresizing does
am i right?

[cyrus-the-virus]

i really want a phantom but it think i will be getting a sniper becase of what was said above (price and avalibiltiy of parts)

and from what ive heard the gun doesnt make that mcuh of a diff on accuracy only the barrels and the boresizing does
am i right?

Actually the gun does make a diffrence. air consistancy, paint, a paint-to-bore match are the key's. what kind of barrel and what length is all preference. A pump is more accurate than a semi because the air only pushes the ball out the barrel ware as a semi recocks the gun AND shoots the ball.

There is a whole HUGE explination on this but fankly I'm tired and if you really want to know you can PM me and I'll tell you tomarrow.

If i were you I'd keep looking for that pump automag. A nice medium between a cocker and phantom + you'll be one of the few.