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  • Toll
    Registered User
    • Jun 2005
    • 758

    #1

    Emag firing incorrectly

    Problem :

    When in E mode (pure e mode) it won't fire propperly when the switch is activated (at all) and when the switch is released (trigger) it will fire 2 balls. Mechmode = It doesnt spring back as quickly, the trigger feels decidedly different.

    In Mech mode I can still fire, but the trigger actuates much, much later in the pull.

    When in hybrid mode it reverts to the problems of the electrical mode.

    The magnet on the top of the trigger is now clearly visable when I pull, when before it wasn't. Maybe this has come loose and is messing with the timing?



    I can't really describe how it is.



    Things that can be ruled out :
    -Tank : Hp, 4000 psi left in it.
    -Something with the valve/l10/etc - Haven't touched it, was shooting fine until mysteriously..poof.

    Stuff it may be :
    -That magnet seems to be loose, which could cause issues
    -Maybe the battery is dying?



    Thanks for anything you can give me.



    Edit :
    - Seems to be the magnet, but I cant figure how to get the trigger off. I dont want to simply slam the pin if it doesnt want to move so I can get access.


    ANy other way or am I just not giving it enough force?
    Last edited by Toll; 05-28-2006, 07:32 PM.
  • flyingpootang
    Magtechian with X disease

    • Dec 2005
    • 2276

    #2
    (1) Try and charge your battery 2) if that dosen't work make shure you trigger is moving close enough to your HES 3) in pure Mech mode it will fell differntly because of the RT mode vs Emode or Hybrid.

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    • Toll
      Registered User
      • Jun 2005
      • 758

      #3
      Battery is taken care of.

      The problem lies in the fact that the trigger magnet on top (right below the M) has come out of the trigger and is now stuck to the rail where the polarity is. To fix this I believe I'll need some rather strong glue and the knowhow of how to remove the trigger pin ( I assume it's straight punch, but I dont want to risk it until I'm sure.)

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      • rmg
        Registered User
        • Apr 2006
        • 141

        #4
        Luke's Customs has a tutorial that I think will help

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #5
          Crazy glue will work fine to hold that magent in place. Allow it to dry overnight before you re-install the trigger into the gun.

          Once you get that taken care of, shoot it and see if that took care of your problems.

          BTW, the trigger pull should be substantially longer in M mode to allow the trigger to push the rod all the way back.

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          • flyingpootang
            Magtechian with X disease

            • Dec 2005
            • 2276

            #6
            Originally posted by Toll
            Battery is taken care of.

            The problem lies in the fact that the trigger magnet on top (right below the M) has come out of the trigger and is now stuck to the rail where the polarity is. To fix this I believe I'll need some rather strong glue and the knowhow of how to remove the trigger pin ( I assume it's straight punch, but I dont want to risk it until I'm sure.)
            The top magnet can be removed by simply holding the trigger backwhile using a iron/metal rod/screw driver/punch. It will stick to the metal and pull directly upward. When reinstalling be shure the polarity is correct (north attracts south) (north repels north) or your trigger will not return

            Note: The top magnets are not glued in from the factory and meant to be used in series to give you a havier trigger return.

            To remove the trigger pin use a simular size punch. It comes out from right to left (barrel forward) and installs from left to right. Be shure to note the pin has slits on it. That side goes in last left side.

            To get a lighter trigger return use a Rare Earth Magnet from Radio Shack. I used a lighter to heat it up and it lowered it's atraction properties.

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            • Toll
              Registered User
              • Jun 2005
              • 758

              #7
              Aka : Pound on the side with the M above it?

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              • mstrdbz
                former cave baller
                • Dec 2004
                • 225

                #8
                Pound on the other side, but make sure the mode switch is point to e-mode

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                • Toll
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 758

                  #9
                  on the + side, I re attatched the magnet! Yay for me!....On the -side I was outsmarted by simple left right directions...so that about evens out.


                  My current problem is that prehaps I jarred something loose.

                  When I go to turn on the e-mode the display seems to jump around. After the "Agd 1.37" appears, I cant program it (using the buttons) without the words only half flashing or being in a completely different space (half way above, below, completely distored)



                  So : what did I break?


                  Edit :

                  - Sometimes it will work as normal...but after a few shots simply dies..or fires in a 3 round succession and then cuts out.
                  Last edited by Toll; 05-30-2006, 08:20 PM.

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                  • mstrdbz
                    former cave baller
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 225

                    #10
                    Try backing your trigger magnet out. If the magnet is too close to the HES it will do what you described. Also it might be you don't have enough return forcean your trigger. Drop a magnet or magnetic item (like a grub screw) into the top of the frame and see it that helps.

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                    • flyingpootang
                      Magtechian with X disease

                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2276

                      #11
                      You pound on the oppsite side of the M (from right to left) Pm me for more help JEEEZZZ

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                      • Toll
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 758

                        #12
                        Was a long day. Everything is in fine order now. The magnet was too close, I moved that back and everything is working fine. The top magnet was re-inserted with some superglue and a popsicle stick.

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                        • BigEvil
                          www.BigEvilOnline.com

                          • Feb 2005
                          • 9333

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Toll
                          Was a long day. Everything is in fine order now. The magnet was too close, I moved that back and everything is working fine. The top magnet was re-inserted with some superglue and a popsicle stick.

                          Glad to hear it. Now get some updated software on that thnig would ya'?

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                          • flyingpootang
                            Magtechian with X disease

                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2276

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Toll
                            Was a long day. Everything is in fine order now. The magnet was too close, I moved that back and everything is working fine. The top magnet was re-inserted with some superglue and a popsicle stick.
                            You don't need to glue it in. It is held in by attraction of your top trigger magnet the way that AGD designed it. If you want a lighter trigger pull try the Radio Shack Rare Earth Magnet. You can heat it up to make the pull lighter. Just make shure it's attracts the trigger when released (fingers off the trigger).

                            Make shure the lower (HES) magnet travels at least 1/8" back pass the activation point to allow a complete signal at all angles of pull. Also if the HES magnet is 180 degrees out of phase (upside down) you will not get a signal to fire the marker in E mode.

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