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  • Dee
    Registered User
    • May 2006
    • 2

    #1

    Automags and CO2

    Im looking for a gun that I can use for playing in the woods with my friends when I can't get HPA. What mags work with CO2?
  • surfbum
    Unregistered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 736

    #2
    if you have a classic valve it would work
    but its not recommended

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    • Tunaman
      Specialized AGD Tech

      • Dec 2000
      • 8643

      #3
      Originally posted by surfbum
      if you have a classic valve it would work
      but its not recommended
      It most certainly IS recommended! The clasic Mag valve was designed for co2
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      • peewee
        AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
        • Mar 2004
        • 1400

        #4
        I have ran classic /lvl7 mags on co2 for over a decade. My son plays with a classic & co2.
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        • rb211
          Poodles suck!
          • Apr 2004
          • 438

          #5
          You can use CO2 on a CLASSIC valve all you want. Just keep liquid out of the valve.

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          • Jaan
            It's Pronounced *John*

            • Apr 2005
            • 1310

            #6
            Originally posted by surfbum
            if you have a classic valve it would work
            ... aaaaand you can just stop right there :)

            I run both my Classic 'Mags on CO2 no problem. One of the 'Mags I've ran on CO2 for 12 years since I broke the seal on the box. All you have to do is keep liquid out of the gun. Most of that time I used a simple anti syphon tank with an expansion chamber. I now use remote. either way works fine.

            If you're cheap, you can go old school and just put a long hose going from the bottom line into the valve ... long enough to coil around in a circle at least once.

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            • flyingpootang
              Magtechian with X disease

              • Dec 2005
              • 2276

              #7
              Originally posted by Dee
              Im looking for a gun that I can use for playing in the woods with my friends when I can't get HPA. What mags work with CO2?
              If your bottle is horizontal use a Jtube/anti syphon. Vertical try not to carry your marker with the barrel pointing towards the ground. Don't use a tank cover this will keep your bottle cold and it will take forever to warm up. Try to use the biggest bottle possible it'll keep your bottle from freezing when rapid firing....

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              • surfbum
                Unregistered User
                • Feb 2006
                • 736

                #8
                Originally posted by surfbum
                if you have a classic valve it would work
                but its not recommended
                my comment about it not being recommended was in regards to the fact that liquid CO2 is very bad for the valve so if you have HPA you dont have to worry about it

                but yes, if you can keep liquid CO2 out of the gun, there is no reason why you cant use CO2

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                • JT_10111
                  Registered User
                  • May 2006
                  • 171

                  #9
                  I just use one of those $20 Electrically heated socks that use a 9v around my tank, keeps it warm, and voids all liquid.

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                  • psychowarden
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1118

                    #10
                    Originally posted by peewee
                    I have ran classic /lvl7 mags on co2 for over a decade. My son plays with a classic & co2.
                    Peewee, you might not want to mention the fact that you have been playing for "decades" And have Mags really been out that long? In order for you to be playing with mags for decades in the plural form, you would have to been playing wit them since 1986, and that would make 20 years, but if you started in 1987, your still working on decade 2 :P

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                    • cowboy_00
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 229

                      #11
                      ive been thinking about putting a lever action Horizantal 12 gram right into the valve 1/8npt, do you think the 12 gram changer should incorporate a expansion chamber to hopefully prevent liquid Co2 or does anyone else have a suggestion (besides running it off a vert foregrip.
                      Its a pump mag with Lvl 7 so i dont exactly shoot fast. at all.

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                      • flyingpootang
                        Magtechian with X disease

                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2276

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JT_10111
                        I just use one of those $20 Electrically heated socks that use a 9v around my tank, keeps it warm, and voids all liquid.
                        Great idea for keeping it warm, but if your playing horizontal or point the barrel towards the ground it will still suck in liquid....

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                        • PatG
                          Garrai Eoin
                          • May 2006
                          • 161

                          #13
                          Out of curiousity sake, what are the symptoms if a 'Mag is starting to suck in liquid Co2? Thanks.

                          Regards,
                          PatG.

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                          • Jaan
                            It's Pronounced *John*

                            • Apr 2005
                            • 1310

                            #14
                            Originally posted by psychowarden
                            Peewee, you might not want to mention the fact that you have been playing for "decades" And have Mags really been out that long? In order for you to be playing with mags for decades in the plural form, you would have to been playing wit them since 1986, and that would make 20 years, but if you started in 1987, your still working on decade 2 :P
                            He said "over a decade". That means over 10 years, but presumedly less than 20. I've also been playing with the same 'mag for over a decade on CO2.

                            Originally posted by cowboy_00
                            ive been thinking about putting a lever action Horizantal 12 gram right into the valve 1/8npt, do you think the 12 gram changer should incorporate a expansion chamber to hopefully prevent liquid Co2 or does anyone else have a suggestion (besides running it off a vert foregrip.
                            Its a pump mag with Lvl 7 so i dont exactly shoot fast. at all.
                            12 gram cartridges don't need expansion chambers, they're all gas inside as far as I know. A lever action quick changer won't be strictly stock class legal if that's what you're shooting for. The cartridge has to be changed through the threads.

                            I did the same thing with a 12 gram cartridge changer, but I didn't connect it directly to the valve ... if I fell and it got hit, I might damage the valve. The two particular 12 gram changers I have are both 1 inch outside diameter. Quite common from what I can tell. I used a 1 inch scope ring to mount it to a classic rail, and then used a hose to connect it to the valve.

                            Originally posted by PatG
                            Out of curiousity sake, what are the symptoms if a 'Mag is starting to suck in liquid Co2? Thanks.
                            It gets really really cold and stops working. If you're lucky, you'll see dry ice snow shoot out of the barrel.

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                            • rb211
                              Poodles suck!
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 438

                              #15
                              If it starts snowing out of the barrel when you are firing it, and it is leaking from the barrel when you arent firing, you got some in there.

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