Mag noob dilemma.

[AgitatedPancake]

Hey guys, i have a 68 classic and im in a pickle. I just got back into paintballing after having everything sitting around for about 4 years (MAN I forgot how fun this sport is). My mag has a few upgrades from back in the day, but I don't remember the names so I might have to get pictures tomorrow. Heres what I got:
**EDIT* Can anyone tell me what kind of barrel that is? It came with the gun when I got it used, it has 4 1" or so slots at the end of the barrel, and its brushed steel.


Dye .45 Trigger frame with older Dye sticky grips
stock trigger
gas-thru front grip
home made drop forward (made it few weeks ago once I got back into the sport).
Now comes the part I can't remember alot about. In the valve, there used to be a mod you could do whered youd drill multiple holes to decrease recharge times. Well, I have that done along with a foamie bolt,

for spares I have the rear section of 3 other valves sitting in my spares box. and a stock bolt, with a different spring.

Heres the dilemma. My friend just got an Ion once we got back into it, and although I havent actually used it in-game yet, I love the trigger pull and anti-chop features on that thing. My mag is still mechanical (which I can fix by making it a pneumag, IF it can be done in the dye trigger frame) but I've been chopping some paint too which is pretty damn annoying. Now, I'm not using an electric hopper of any sort, but do they fix ALL chopping problems? I know I could go level 10, but thats more money spent.

I'm not a COMPLETE automag fanboy, and im tempted to sell the mag for a newer gun such as the ion. But, I do want to keep the mag if I can, because I do love it but I will part with it if it isnt reasonable to make it compare to newer guns.

[olinar]

you can definitely make it better than an ion(prolly already is)mags have the greatest quality a marker can have.also some up grades to look into is and xvalve with a ult and a level 10.to get all of that used it would be like $260.but iw ould make your gun alot faster have a lighter trigger pull and will rarely chop(never chops if tuned perfect)but ill be honest with you if you dont have the money to do all that you should just sell your gun and either get an ion or save a little more for something else.looking at your mag i think you should get atleast $160 for just the gun and maybe another $50 if you sell the 3 back halves.

[AgitatedPancake]

Hey thanks for the honest opinion man. It's not that I don't have the money, I just wanted to know whats most reasonable/economical, and if not those the reason I should go the other route :) I feel confident that I can to the pneumag mod myself, so the lightened trigger pull would only cost me what, about 50-60 bucks? ut hts the chopping thats bugging me. Thats where it gets expensive =/


*EDIT* I mistyped, I only have 2 other back halves, total of 3. Also I do have the stock trigger frame and grips also.

[olinar]

well the pneumag is not very effective on a single trigger frame since the pneumatics make it easier to walk the gun and having one trigger will just make the pull lighter for sure but you wont be getting the most out of the mod.also it can run up to $100 for a pneumod.i think if you sold all of your stuff you should be able to get around $200.hell maybe you can convince someone on here to trade you an ion for it.but if you decide to keep it,a double trigger frame will be very effective with pneumatics.

[AgitatedPancake]

what do you mean easier to "walk the gun"?

[olinar]

when you "walk"the trigger.basically tryin to pull the trigger with both fingers almost simultaneously.for example you start with your middle finger and then your index finger right after.

[AgitatedPancake]

Ah, well when I shoot rapidly such as when I played with my friends ion, I used one finger, as I havent mastered using both yet =P. Also I'd be willing to cut off the trigger guard, put a 2 finger trigger on and rebuilding a custom guard for it.

[egb groupie]

Shop around, a lvl10 kit can be bought for reasonable prices nowadays, somewhere between $60-80. Also get yourself an RT Pro on/off for your classic valve (it slides right in where the old on/off goes) and it will do wonders for your trigger pull (drops it to around 4lbs).

[Shirow]

Honestly, if you want to even be able to remotely compare to an Ion in terms of features you'd want to get:

A double trigger frame
Level 10
Retro or X-Valve (with or without ULT kit)

If I am brutally honestly, you have to be a pretty decent automag fanboy to justify spending that kind of money. In fact, I'd venture to say you'd be better off just buying a brand new RT ULE Custom and selling your current marker rather than buying those three upgrades, as brand new for each, you're looking at $400 or so, with shipping etc (and that's if you trade in a current valve against the X-Valve.)

If all that worries you is the chopping, get the level 10 bolt and be done with it. That's the best fix to a simple problem.

[cyberave68]

[Shirow]

Yeah, I agree, forgot to mention that.. without an electric hopper, playing with ANY gun is kind of a pain (well, except a pump I guess.)

I think a Halo is overkill for a classic mag - a 12v revy is more than sufficient.

[egb groupie]

Yeah, I agree, forgot to mention that.. without an electric hopper, playing with ANY gun is kind of a pain (well, except a pump I guess.)

I think a Halo is overkill for a classic mag - a 12v revy is more than sufficient.

I 2nd the Revvy, if he is using the powerfeed body. A Halo is bigger and heavier and would really throw the balance off on the gun.

[cyberave68]

Yes a 12v revy would be best, Sorry. Bad habbit I'm using to a center feed EMAG. A revy just dont cut on my gun...lol

[Spider-TW]

I pulled my mag out after 13 years away from paintball. After buying a new revvy (the rotor fell appart) and having to replace most of the external urethane seals (krytox rocks on internals), I still had some chops. Usually they were at the critical moments. Nothing advertises a chop like the confetti you get blowing out of your power feed! Either I would forget to turn my revvy back on (scenarios), or it would be humid out (Houston) and balls would stick.

The Halo pushes the balls down, but sticky balls can still block them on a rare occasion. Nothing stops 90F/90% weather.

I thought about an Ion too. I didn't want the batteries (scenarios again) but wanted the anti-chop. I was just going to go with the level 10, but joined a team and needed to "do my part", so I just went with the whole X-valve/Level 10. Now I can go reactive, but I am limited by my revvy and don't have to worry about exceeding any rate limits over 12 bps. The electronic triggers are nice, but I am not convinced about the 'need' for all of the different modes. I only play speedball as last resort, so you have to take that in perspective. I like the way the mag shoots. Even when it chopped I could shoot it out.

But wait! It's all toys anyway, get what you WANT. As long as it doesn't keep you off the field, it's all good.