RT On/Off in a Classic

[Shingo]

Will an RT on/off give the classic valve a "reactive trigger"?

~Shingo~

[pump]

slightly....but what it really does nice is lighten up the trigger pull!!!!! FTW!!!

i think this is one of the most highly recomended parts for a AIR/Classic/Rental mag out there

me i use a Hyperframe On Off....same smell but different appliciation of the concept

[Shingo]

A little reativity? As in, there is a slight chance that the classic can 'bounce' and pull off a short 3-round burst?

Thanks pump!

~Shingo~

[egb groupie]

A little reativity? As in, there is a slight chance that the classic can 'bounce' and pull off a short 3-round burst?

Thanks pump!

~Shingo~

I've been using one in my classic valve for quite a few months now. You won't be able to pull off strings on a normal 800 psi input (I don't have anything more than 800 available to me so I can't say). It does, IMO, give a slightly faster recharge rate, but nowhere near what an x valve can do.

[pump]

A little reativity? As in, there is a slight chance that the classic can 'bounce' and pull off a short 3-round burst?

id say no but ask around

It does, IMO, give a slightly faster recharge rate,

why? and how?
same port sizes

[egb groupie]

It gives a slightly faster recharge rate because the RT on/off was designed to recharge faster with the RT valve. The pin design is different than a classic on/off, the head is bigger on the top half of the pin, where the pin is one diameter the whole way through on a classic on/off. This pin is what makes it a lighter trigger pull, but it also has more surface area for the air to push on to reset it. Slightly faster, but nothing to write home about. The benefits I have seen is that you can get a pretty decent rate of fire that can be sustained for a decent amount of time, and at the end of the day my finger isn't so sore off an 4 lb trigger pull compared to an 8lb trigger pull with the old on/off.

[pump]

It gives a slightly faster recharge rate because the RT on/off was designed to recharge faster with the RT valve.

so how does its on off improve recharge with a classic valve?
i think the RT top has the same size openings as the newer Classic tops

so flow is not improved but pull is

[egb groupie]

so how does its on off improve recharge with a classic valve?
i think the RT top has the same size openings as the newer Classic tops

so flow is not improved but pull is

As I said in my last post, it really isn't anything special as far as the recharge goes. Barely noticeable if you are actually paying attention. Main benefit is lighter trigger pull. Now when I am talking about a fast recharge in an RT valve, this is because the air flows through the valve differently than in a classic valve. In the RT valve, the full force of the incoming air is used to reset the on/off, whereas in the classic valve, air that has laready been regulated inside the valve is being used to reset the on/off.

[pump]

As I said in my last post, it really isn't anything special as far as the recharge goes. Barely noticeable if you are actually paying attention.

yes but how is that acomplished? thats what im courous to know, to me on a Classic mag its the same flow....just your finger can now pull the trigger faster

also the Classic mags design can hit 20 nicely...just needs an Electronic pull