Annodization or Powder Coat?

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  • Automagrt666
    Pneumag Pneub
    • Oct 2006
    • 157

    #1

    Annodization or Powder Coat?

    Hey everyone, just had a question if powder coating was a bad idea for my marker body and should I just go with Annodization? Also, if that's the case, anyone know a place that will annodize it for a fair price? don't want to have to sell my kidneys to get it done heh. Thanks!
  • Shingo
    The Solar Powered Cat
    • Oct 2001
    • 335

    #2
    I plan to send my mag to Grunt Bull Anodizing when I have my setup all complete and when I have $$$.

    Quote that I got from them seems pretty reasonable.

    ~Shingo~

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    • Automagrt666
      Pneumag Pneub
      • Oct 2006
      • 157

      #3
      What was the quote?

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      • Shingo
        The Solar Powered Cat
        • Oct 2001
        • 335

        #4
        It depends on the job they need to do on your gear and the # of colors and style you need.... I was looking into a two color (one solid color per piece) dust finish on everything but one polished part... for ten pieces... quote received the next day = $80

        It's best to contact them and ask for a quote for the job you need.

        ~Shingo~

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        • thefool
          resident idiot
          • May 2005
          • 671

          #5
          anno ftw. I just got a tank up and running. PM me if you need a quote.

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          • SR_matt
            Santa Sucks
            • Jun 2006
            • 1072

            #6
            rainman229.com does awesome work. i payed under 100 bucks to get my mag, barrel tips, and couple other parts anoed 1 color. less than a week turnaround and shipped back to me.

            -matt

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            • don miguel
              the legend
              • Sep 2006
              • 1141

              #7
              contact nate2k191 he has an awesome powder coat on his emag. I love it. check it out: (sorry for the big pic) ask him where he got it done. NATE YOUR MAG IS SWEET!

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              • warbeak2099
                That is my foot!
                • Jan 2004
                • 4447

                #8
                That powdercoat was done by Ken at K&K Customs. He pc'd my gun too before I had Luke re-PC it. That was just cause look had to match it to a different peice and said he might as well re-do it. Ken does a great job and he's reasonably priced.
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                • Automagrt666
                  Pneumag Pneub
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 157

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shingo
                  I plan to send my mag to Grunt Bull Anodizing when I have my setup all complete and when I have $$$.

                  Quote that I got from them seems pretty reasonable.

                  ~Shingo~
                  I checked out www.gruntballanodizing.com and I'm extremely impressed with their work. To just make my gun and trigger frame matt black it's only 32$! Thanks Shingo

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                  • Shingo
                    The Solar Powered Cat
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 335

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Automagrt666
                    I checked out www.gruntballanodizing.com and I'm extremely impressed with their work. To just make my gun and trigger frame matt black it's only 32$! Thanks Shingo
                    No prob...

                    ~Shingo~

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                    • Tym
                      AGD Junkie
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 371

                      #11
                      I assume you're talking about the entire marker..

                      Powder Coating:

                      I would stay away from powder coating unless you REALLY REALLY NEED a %100 flat finnish.. Powder coating usualy (Even in a few fragile layers) Takes up quite a bit of extra room. This will make your gun seem thicker (cause it is) and will cause you nothing but problems when it comes time to re-assemble your marker. Things will not line up, things will not "fit" right... You will end up using much force, chipping your powdercoat, or having to sand/file parts to fit with counter-parts.. A good powder coat is usualy about the thickness of a plastic 2l pop bottle. And 4 - 5 times as hard..

                      Keep that in mind when it comes time to put your marker together, both parts powdercoated? times the coating thickness by 2, and that's how much EXTRA room your powdercoating will take up.. Basicaly it's like adding thick shims on every part of your marker, it will for sure cause you nothing but problems.

                      That being said, Powdercoating is Very brittle, almost like a layer of ceramic.. powder coating IS very prone to chipping/cracking..

                      Anodizing:

                      This is the meathod most people use on markers.. The finnish, at best is your selected color with a dull metalic shine, because you're anodizing, you're not adding layers of paint, you are actualy changing the crystal structure of the top layers of the metal.. As well as adding pigmentation.. This adds zero or VERY VERY little thickness to your metal, therefore the marker will be the exact same to put back together..

                      The resulting finish, depending on the process, is the second hardest substance known to man, second only to the diamond... And since the color is not paint, It will not chip or crack, or any of the stuff paint does.. But since anodizing is actual top layers of the metal, if you scratch it hard enuff, it will reveal the silver color of your base metal..

                      It's up to you, people swear by either or, and will tell you one or the other is junk..
                      I say if you don't %100 need a %100 flat finnish, Anodizings pro's out-weigh powdercoatings.. And the powder coatings cons are VERY VERY big cons..

                      My opinion? Anodizing

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                      • Mechanic79
                        Whatever, I do what I want

                        • Jul 2001
                        • 666

                        #12
                        If you want truer white you have to powder coat.

                        Any contact info for a quality powder coating place? I'm looking for a glossy or close to gloss as possible white to blue fade. And should the raw aluminum be ano'd first or doesn't it matter?

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                        • gnnr
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 21

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=Tym]I assume you're talking about the entire marker..

                          Powder Coating:

                          I would stay away from powder coating unless you REALLY REALLY NEED a %100 flat finnish.. Powder coating usualy (Even in a few fragile layers) Takes up quite a bit of extra room. This will make your gun seem thicker (cause it is) and will cause you nothing but problems when it comes time to re-assemble your marker. Things will not line up, things will not "fit" right... You will end up using much force, chipping your powdercoat, or having to sand/file parts to fit with counter-parts.. A good powder coat is usualy about the thickness of a plastic 2l pop bottle. And 4 - 5 times as hard..




                          You seem to know alot about it. It's off topic but: on the old stainless mag bodies the feedneck looks soldered on. If so, would the heat required for powder coating melt the solder joint.

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                          • SR_matt
                            Santa Sucks
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1072

                            #14
                            those necks should be welded. you can solder stainless but normaly you either braze or weld it and for something like a feedneck it would almost have to be welded

                            either way if it is soldered it may melt if the solder is a low temp solder and the powder coat is a high temp one.

                            but as long as it hasnt been altered from stock it will be welded and powder coat will not harm it

                            -matt

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                            • RehKal
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 266

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SR_matt
                              those necks should be welded. you can solder stainless but normaly you either braze or weld it and for something like a feedneck it would almost have to be welded

                              either way if it is soldered it may melt if the solder is a low temp solder and the powder coat is a high temp one.

                              but as long as it hasnt been altered from stock it will be welded and powder coat will not harm it

                              -matt

                              Question about an Automag RT, this seems to be the appropriate place to ask about it for the moment.



                              Just bought this off ebay today and as you can plainly see it is in bad need of either annodizing or powder coat.

                              My question is this. How much of these markers like this are steel? Cause the anno doesn't work with steel right? Powder coat may be the only way for me to go with this one...

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