Carbon Fiber Pneu Frame???

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  • turbo chicken
    waiting for MY pump kit...
    • Mar 2006
    • 568

    #1

    Carbon Fiber Pneu Frame???

    Has anyone tried a carbon fiber pney frame yet? I've seen it mentioned but cant find anything on what was milled out of the middle...

    when i get paid on friday i'm ordering the parts...

    Can someone measure a cf frame thickness for me and let me know if the parts will even fit width wise...

    looking foward to the responses

    TC
  • wjr
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 995

    #2
    I haven't made one, but I planned on it and put time into measuring everything out.

    First off, a mpa-3 won't really work. It's far too wide.

    Instead, get the clippard sm-6. It's a good deal skinnier, but a bit longer. It won't fit in perfectly, so you'll have to do some dremmeling.

    I planned on using a smav-3, so I don't know whether a fabco valve would fit in there or not.

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    • turbo chicken
      waiting for MY pump kit...
      • Mar 2006
      • 568

      #3
      Originally posted by wjr
      I haven't made one, but I planned on it and put time into measuring everything out.

      First off, a mpa-3 won't really work. It's far too wide.

      Instead, get the clippard sm-6. It's a good deal skinnier, but a bit longer. It won't fit in perfectly, so you'll have to do some dremmeling.

      I planned on using a smav-3, so I don't know whether a fabco valve would fit in there or not.
      where can i get the ..sm-6??? #edit# i think i see a link in the database thingy#edit# ok air soldier doesn't have them ... is there another place i can get it????##edit again##

      also i've seen something about "lukes valve" but i don't see anything on his site.
      Last edited by turbo chicken; 12-12-2006, 09:06 PM.

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      • quick_spyder
        Registered User
        • Mar 2006
        • 146

        #4
        Do you already have a grip frame? If you don't I'll sell you one for $8 shipped.
        Pics

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        • wjr
          Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 995

          #5
          You can get one right here.


          Just search sm-6 and you'll find it.

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          • turbo chicken
            waiting for MY pump kit...
            • Mar 2006
            • 568

            #6
            Here's my list

            clippard smav-3
            clippard sm-6
            tubing
            11752-5 Barbs
            11755 plugs
            lpr
            CF frame


            do I have everything listed???

            quick spyder ill PM you on friday!!!

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            • Pneumagger
              I like 'Mags.

              • Jun 2006
              • 3556

              #7
              I got all the parts together, cleared out space in the frame, measured and fit everything in it, and just never got around to finishing it to be operational. It can be done, it's ugly, but i'm confident it would be every bit as good as a regular frame.

              I used:
              Fabco MSV-1 <- chopped in half for size
              Clippard MPA-3
              Clippard 12841-PKG (barbs)
              Clippard Hose

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              • turbo chicken
                waiting for MY pump kit...
                • Mar 2006
                • 568

                #8
                it looks like the smav-3 has to be threaded into the frame to mount it ... is this right???

                i'm not sure how the CF would hold up to being tapped ....

                I couldn't find anything on using a smav-3 for installation in the database.

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                • Pneumagger
                  I like 'Mags.

                  • Jun 2006
                  • 3556

                  #9
                  that's because the smav-3 is inferior to the msv-2 and msv-1. Although fully sealing, it's just a havier pull and harder to mount.

                  You can cut an msv1 down to about the size of an SMAV-3

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                  • wjr
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 995

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pneumagger
                    I got all the parts together, cleared out space in the frame, measured and fit everything in it, and just never got around to finishing it to be operational. It can be done, it's ugly, but i'm confident it would be every bit as good as a regular frame.

                    I used:
                    Fabco MSV-1 <- chopped in half for size
                    Clippard MPA-3
                    Clippard 12841-PKG (barbs)
                    Clippard Hose

                    How did you plan on putting the mpa-3 in there?

                    And can we get pics of the chopped down msv-1? I'm eager to learn more of this.

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                    • turbo chicken
                      waiting for MY pump kit...
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 568

                      #11
                      yes ... how would i go about chopping the msv-1 down???

                      I'm assuming that some dremmeling had to be done to fit the mpa-3

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                      • Pneumagger
                        I like 'Mags.

                        • Jun 2006
                        • 3556

                        #12
                        I carved the grips out a bit to houst the MPA-3. I had wood grips with plenty of meat on 'em.

                        The MSV-1 and 2 are basically about 1/3 solid brass. Just chop off the solid part opposite of the barb holes.

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                        • turbo chicken
                          waiting for MY pump kit...
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 568

                          #13
                          revised list

                          Originally posted by turbo chicken
                          Here's my list

                          clippard smav-3
                          clippard sm-6
                          tubing
                          11752-5 Barbs
                          11755 plugs
                          lpr
                          CF frame


                          do I have everything listed???

                          quick spyder ill PM you on friday!!!
                          ok revised list
                          I used:
                          Fabco MSV-1 <- chopped in half for size
                          Clippard sm-6
                          Clippard 12841-PKG (barbs)
                          Clippard Hose

                          The only question is will the sm-6 even work ... stroke is .375 inches ... and how much force is needed to move the sear???

                          here is the force output for the sm-6
                          @50psi=2.5lbs force
                          @75psi=3.75
                          100=5
                          125=6.25 this is the max

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                          • havocx
                            SW Ontario
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 88

                            #14
                            force needed depends on the on/off used.
                            I think Pneumagger could break it down better as I dont remember the weights. Besides he is the guru.

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                            • turbo chicken
                              waiting for MY pump kit...
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 568

                              #15
                              Originally posted by havocx
                              force needed depends on the on/off used.
                              I think Pneumagger could break it down better as I dont remember the weights. Besides he is the guru.
                              I read it in the forum a few weeks ago now I can't find it ... my searches bring up too much un related stuff

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