Breaking balls! Chopping or shooting?

[The_Don_83]

[Coralis]

Could be some really bad paint or paint that has some problems with consistent size and shape ... i was going to suggest going to a bigger bore barrel but your shooting a .691 barrel already though you could check to ensure you have a good barrel to paint match. Does this happen only when you rapid fire or just randomly ?

[Pzippy]

It might just be old/bad paint.

[The_Don_83]

Could be some really bad paint or paint that has some problems with consistent size and shape ... i was going to suggest going to a bigger bore barrel but your shooting a .691 barrel already though you could check to ensure you have a good barrel to paint match. Does this happen only when you rapid fire or just randomly ?

I can't specifically figure out if its random or rapid fire... but I'm just about positive its during rapid fire. The barrel is a Dye UltraLight back and a Stiffi barrel front. The balls are PMI Premium and my girlfriend uses a 68 automag with the same paint and never has a problem. This makes me think it has to be short stroking....

[lasrsktr]

I can't specifically figure out if its random or rapid fire... but I'm just about positive its during rapid fire. The barrel is a Dye UltraLight back and a Stiffi barrel front. The balls are PMI Premium and my girlfriend uses a 68 automag with the same paint and never has a problem. This makes me think it has to be short stroking....

could be a possibility of your Reg starving the valve every other shot... Meaning it doesn't have a very high recharge rate.

[phat4life07]

could be a possibility of your Reg starving the valve every other shot... Meaning it doesn't have a very high recharge rate.

i agree, try a different tank

[The_Don_83]

i agree, try a different tank

What do you suggest I use?

[SkruD]

could be a possibility of your Reg starving the valve every other shot... Meaning it doesn't have a very high recharge rate.

What is the output of your current tank?

[The_Don_83]

What is the output of your current tank?

Its a PMI 63/4500... I would guess thats about 850...

What do you suggest?

[d4m4don3]

You know anyone with crossfire or dynaflow reg? They have a great recharge rate.

[Automagrt666]

Nobody has said this yet so I will . If you don't pull the trigger back all the way and make a complete trigger pull (aka shortstroking) the ball may get pushed slightly down the barrel and the next ball will hit it. I've done it a couple of times when I first got my RT, also happened on my friend's classic mag during rapid fire but it was a bad ASA we found (was restricting airflow).

Edit: Also, make sure you're not using an inline reg, it will starve the gun.

[The_Don_83]

You know anyone with crossfire or dynaflow reg? They have a great recharge rate.

I have a crossfire 68/3000 also.... but the field I play at for some reason wont fill the crossfire tanks for some reason... something to do with the fill nipple

[The_Don_83]

Nobody has said this yet so I will . If you don't pull the trigger back all the way and make a complete trigger pull (aka shortstroking) the ball may get pushed slightly down the barrel and the next ball will hit it. I've done it a couple of times when I first got my RT, also happened on my friend's classic mag during rapid fire but it was a bad ASA we found (was restricting airflow).

Edit: Also, make sure you're not using an inline reg, it will starve the gun.

This is what I'm thinking I"m doing... but not sure so I had to ask. Anything I can do to prevent it? ...other then practice

[athomas]

After each trigger pull, you have to completely release the trigger to prevent short stroking. This could be exaggerated if there is a tiny bit of bolt stick due to a tight carrier. It might not be tight enough to stop the gun from firing, but it might be tight enough to increase the bolt cycle time.

I would check the carrier size as a first step.

Another thing that causes barrel breaks on their own is if the balls are brittle and the size is such that they fracture going into the barrel. Use a larger bore barrel if this is the case. Using a .691" barrel, you shouldn't have this problem but you never know.

[The_Don_83]

After each trigger pull, you have to completely release the trigger to prevent short stroking. This could be exaggerated if there is a tiny bit of bolt stick due to a tight carrier. It might not be tight enough to stop the gun from firing, but it might be tight enough to increase the bolt cycle time.

I would check the carrier size as a first step.

Another thing that causes barrel breaks on their own is if the balls are brittle and the size is such that they fracture going into the barrel. Use a larger bore barrel if this is the case. Using a .691" barrel, you shouldn't have this problem but you never know.

Where can I find carrier size information?

Thanks