Nitro Tanks

[circa3182]

I am looking at getting a nitro tank, only i am unsure as to get a 4500 or 3000 psi. I undersatnd what it means however I was wondering what most Scuba Shops fill? Is it true the fill nipples are different or soemething like that? I need some help, fast. Basically if one over the other which fill station will a shop have?

[virus]

rule of thumb for deciding between 3k and 4.5k as i see it...

if there is nowhere in your area to get a 4.5k just stick with 3k

if you travel to tournies, big games, senerios or to fields outside your normal look and there is a chance of gettin it filled upto 4.5k and you dont mind spending the extra money go for the 4.5k

now as for the scuba shop... most dont fill your ongun tank or have a setup for this... granted there are some out there but they are far and few between....

best way to see if they do... if you have a male end of a quick disconnect take it to them and ask them if you came in with a tank for paintball with this fitting could you fill it...

most likely they wont but you could look into get a used scuba tank and then lookin online for the fill station needed and go from there....

only thing that could stop that route is if the dive shop would not sell or fill a scuba tank for you with out a scuba certification card.... though most now adayz will either have you sign a waiver or want the tank clearly marked for paintball use only.... other shop that deal with other paintballers will be more helpful... and if worse comes to worse send them on their way here and wecan show them a new market....

[soilent green]

buy a 4500 it will be nice in the future you hold a lot more shots

[veteranmag]

With respect to scuba shop fills - I seriously doubt that they will fill your tanks from their compressors which they use to fill standard scuba tanks. Instead, you would need to get a paintball fill adaptor (for example one made by ACI for around $55-60) that fits onto a scuba tank and has a quick disconnect that fits on paintball tanks (regardless of whether the paintball tank is a 3000 or 4500 psi tank).

Standard scuba tanks are filled to 3000 psi. I've looked into buying/renting scuba tanks (I'm scuba certified). I'm told that your first fill into your paintball tank off a full scuba tank will be less than 3000 psi and each fill after that will decrease several hundred psi. If you plan on filling from scuba tanks then getting a 4500 psi tank doesn't make sense b/c you won't be able to fill it.

Why are you trying to fill at scuba shops? You should be able to get it done at your local field with less difficulty and generally for a lower cost (calculating the cost of renting a scuba tank, buying the adaptar - unless you play so often or have several friends who split the cost with you).

The general rule of thumb is that you get about 10 shots per cubic inch for a 3000 psi tank (ie 680 shots for a 68 cubic inch tank) and 15 shots per cubic tank for a 4500 psi. This will vary depending on your gun and setup. 4500 psi tanks cost significantly more than a 3000 psi tank but you get more shots for the same size tank.

The first question is how many shots will you need between fills (how many do you shoot each game?, how much trouble is it to fill between games?, does your field charge you per fill or an all-day pass?)

How big a tank can you comfortably carry (are you going on-gun or remote?) For smaller players a 68 cubic tank may be the only reasonable choice for going on-gun. I used a 114 3000 psi tank remote for many years. It can shoot over half a case of paint, but it was too big a target and I wanted to mount the tank on-gun. So I bought a 88 cubic inch 4500 tank. Some fields I played on could only fill up to 3000 psi so I figured that getting 900 shots (at 3000 psi) was good enough.

If you have the money, 4500 gives you more flexibity.
But I think that a 88 cubic inch 3000 psi tank is the best value, but a 68 cubic inch is also a viable choice (I didn't choose the 68 because I didn't want to fill every other game and I didn't want to run out of air if I got into heavy firefights in my third game).

[hoppr]

4500 is great

i just got a 4500 tank and i like it better than my 3000. I get about 300-400 more shots out of it. I guess other people have had problems getting it filled at scuba shop but i have not. There is a good size shop down the street from my work and they can fill 4500 tanks. The only thing i notice is that my on-tank reg says 4500 right after the fill but drops to 4000 after a little bit of time. i don't think i have any leaks as it has stayed at 3000 for over a week when i had some air left over from weekend play. this scuba shop fills the tank for $3 where the LPBS charges $5. which ever way you go, HPA is definately better than co2. good luck.

[circa3182]

Thank you everyone

Thnaks