BPS question (e-mag and ULT mag)

[Cleric]

I know these are definitely somewhere else, but there are so many threads here it is hard to search.

I'm basically looking for a ball park, just a normal non adjustable tank. What is the bps of an X-Valved E-Mag and an Automag with x-valve/lvl10/ULT/intelli?

[magpump]

um the ult... would be unwalkable. or some say they are. but they really arent that much. depends really. but the intelli wouldnt matter. :P

as far as emag. i would say as fast as you can pull your fingers.. it all comes down to the emag actually being walkable.

if thats all you really wanted you could go with a pneumag.(pneumatic mag) which the trigger activates a 3-way which than opens and allows air from a lpr, which than runs to a actuater that strikes the sear. these can be picket up for 5(actuator{mpa-3}) 10(3-way{msv-2}) and a lpr for a autococker(15). with this you would not need batteries and would have a trigger pull of around 50g-100g.

[dsrkd]

Take a look.

http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paintballs/z-man_videos/zman_videos_main.html

[ta2maki]

The ult can be walkable with much tuning and walking practice. The trigger pull is light but not that light. I'd say 10-11bps would be the best you could hope for and you might not ever get that. The emag, you might be able to do 20bps before drop off on a non adjustable tank. You know you can shim the spring pack on a non adjustable tank to raise the output pressure.

I cant walk my ult/xvalved mag but the trigger is very light so I can shoot like 6-7bps all day without my finger getting tired. I can walk my x-mag 13-13bps, but thats because I suck at walking.

Take a look.

http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paint...deos_main.html

That 'rapid firing' is not a ult, you need the regular on/off for max reactivity. If you want to do that with a ult, you need to up the input pressure.

[Cow hunter]

The ult can be walkable with much tuning and walking practice. The trigger pull is light but not that light. I'd say 10-11bps would be the best you could hope for and you might not ever get that. The emag, you might be able to do 20bps before drop off on a non adjustable tank. You know you can shim the spring pack on a non adjustable tank to raise the output pressure.

I cant walk my ult/xvalved mag but the trigger is very light so I can shoot like 6-7bps all day without my finger getting tired. I can walk my x-mag 13-13bps, but thats because I suck at walking.





That 'rapid firing' is not a ult, you need the regular on/off for max reactivity. If you want to do that with a ult, you need to up the input pressure.

im fairly certain no matter how much pressure is in the valve, the ULT makes it FLAT. the way to get reactivity out of a ULT is to add a bunch of shims ~8-9 should do the job

[Nick E]

no, past like 5 it barely fits in the body, and at like 6most i ever tried I think) i have to use a pick to hold the on off in while i pushed it into the body. 4 gave me plenty of reactivity..

[Cow hunter]

no, past like 5 it barely fits in the body, and at like 6most i ever tried I think) i have to use a pick to hold the on off in while i pushed it into the body. 4 gave me plenty of reactivity..

probably using lvl10 shims then, theyre twice the thickness, and 2x4=8

[p8ntbal4me]

Tom states in a few posts that as far as mechanics, the ULT cant go beyond 20bps. Thats just due to simple physics. I dont understand why, but the man said so,... so take it as 99.99% law.

I have found an EXTREME case where this was not true. The gun was on electronic timing and had a TON of bounce. Reliably, it was not good. Once I got the ULT and the electronics set to perform like a normal everyday semi-auto, the ROF was right around 20bps.

Still when you think of an E-Mag set to 17bps,... its very fast!

[Badmovies.org]

I have managed to hit a short burst of 16 bps with a shimmed ULT, but I cannot come anywhere near sustaining that. My normal sustained fire is about 8 bps if I am "in tune" with the marker. For my style of play, that is plenty.