which one to get new to automags any help would be appreciated

[macguyver]

Hi all I'm new to automags came from autococers and tippmann a5.

I've just always liked the way the mags looked and heard a ton of good things about them, so I figured I give it a try.

With that being said forgive me for sounding stupid but I have very little knowledge when it comes to these guns and the only thing I know is from what I've read
So anyone who can correct me and give me sound advice it would be great


do you really need a powerfeed body and wat is the differece between having one star seals in the auto mag vs 4 star seals in the minimag.

I know its a stupid question but it seems like the automag can be gotten for next to nothing even with the upgrades minus the powerfeed body. I just wanted to know if it was worth it or just go with the mini mag. is it true that the mini mag has more seal parts compared to the automag where they use more plastic parts?

I was also thinking of getting the classic Rt does it require the level 10 bolt? and does it have a big enough following where parts are still around new ?


thank you in advance.

[georgeyew]

The number of stars represent the number of rebuilds that you can get from the factory for free. The Minimag valve and the Automag valve are the same, except for maybe the number of stars.

[Spider-TW]

I missed out on the whole stars thing, I don't know why some come with one and some come with four.

The RT PRO valve is the older stainless version of the new X-valve. The X-valve comes with the lvl 10 bolt, which is an add on for any automag. The RT valve (not PRO) had some differences in air connections and on/off arrangement. The RT valve (not PRO) is a little less popular, but no less effective.

The power feed was to try to compensate for the open bolt action kicking the balls back up the feed neck and then getting chopped on the way back in. If you have a force feed loader, the power feed is unnecessary. If you want to shoot more than about 8 bps consistently, you need a force feed loader anyway.

[macguyver]

tac one

on the subject of rt how much are they going for the classic? what about the tac one ? i saw one on e-bay that was like 800 dollars thats just crazy.

[peewee]

Classsic & tac one are completely different animals. The classic has a slower recharge rate , the tac one has an X valve usually which has a much faster recharge rate (it is more complicated internally)& is stricktly a compressed air valve. A classic is able to run both compressed air & CO2. I'd recommend that you head over to agd's site & look at the exploded view of the classic & X/rt valves. They performance from a tac one or RT/ule pro for rate of fire is better than a classic. I favor the classic due to some areas that I play not having compressed air. But I'm looking hard at a couple scuba tanks. In regard to the automag vs minimag they are the same internally the only differences are in the body stryle & vert air adapter on the minimag. Dont forget that the tac one comes stock with a LVL X bolt.

[macguyver]

which one would you guys prefer a modded up minimag for a automag rt? I kinda like the fact that minimag are made of stainless steel vs alum for the rt. wonder if thats going to make a huge durability issue any thoughts?

thanks

[Spider-TW]

The only real wearing parts are orings in a mag. Maybe the power tube tip if you really torture the screws or use a twistlock barrel that is not straight. It would be impressive if you wore out an x-valve body. By then you probably wouldn't mind rebuilding it anyway. The stainless is fun and lasts FOREVER, even when abused. But anyone that cares about their guns would take care of an x-valve enough that you would not see the difference. You get more options with an x and unquestioned recharge time. If I had to pick one, I would have to put up with the x-valve. Fortunately, I have both.

[jade_monkey07]

I was in the same boat as you about 8 months ago, all these valves and diffirent setups. i ended on the tac one(best mech on the market), ordered it and have never been happier with a marker. all i added was the ultra light trigger upgrade. i play summer woodsball, and winter speedball, i was a little worried that i couldnt keep up with a mech in a electro induced speedball world. let me tell you, the ult lets you throw paint in strings once you get used to the trigger. and its second to none in woodsball, you can dunk these things in water pull it out and start shooting(- the paint int he water).

to make along story short, iv put about 8 cases through it since january( i play lots) and all i need to replace on the xvalve is the bumber.(its in the mail) you really wont need to worry about wear and tear in the valve. worse thing that could happen is a few orings go bad. just remember to get the rt or xvalve repairkit for 25$ when you order your gun

in the end what gun you get is your choice of styles more then quality, any one AGD gun will treat you well

[macguyver]

thank you for all of your help it has been quite a learning experience.

thanks again