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  • RetroMagMan
    Registered User
    • Apr 2007
    • 12

    #1

    Barrel ? sounds and distants.

    New to paint ball here... wondering about barrels. I have a clasic auto mag now, had Retro.. any way. was wondering.. i have 2 short barrels 1 is like 2 inches sticking out of my gun and is aluminum other one is stainless and is about 5 inches. They both seem to shoot ok. but was wondering if longer barrels shot further..and or if they are longer with holes are they quieter. I want to shoot as far as possibe but with good volocity.. want quite too. is there a barrel that does that... or is it more the gun? Mine seem to me just as load as my tippman. I was told Auto mags were quite. ANy ideas.
  • FiXeL
    Registered Gun-Whore
    • May 2006
    • 819

    #2
    I've tried alot of different barrels (mostly cocker threaded) but my favorite at the moment is a one-piece all american twistlock barrel 16" i have on my minimag right now. It seems more accurate than other barrels i have, even the 12" that my sister has on her gun is very accurate. The report isnt very loud so it should be something to look at. I doubt you still can get them new, but used should be good. For the record, i shoot Draxxus/Procaps Midnight or Blaze. Paint to barrel match is important to get good accuracy.

    I'm very happy with it, but wait for other posts, because there are alot of barrels out there that are good but i never played with them.

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    • craltal
      MCB, baby...
      • Oct 2003
      • 1452

      #3
      Some good reading:

      This forum is an archive of some of the more classic posts from Automags.org. A great place to find stored information.


      This forum is an archive of some of the more classic posts from Automags.org. A great place to find stored information.


      longer barrels will NOT make you shoot further. all they will do, after a certain point, is rob you of efficiency. Porting on a barrel does help reduce the sound signature of the gun somewhat.
      Most of us like to use around a 12-14" barrel. Anything much longer then that and you loose efficiency. Some will trade that of for the ability to push into an inflatable bunker with a slightly longer barrel.

      Since you have a twist-lock mag, just keep your eyes out on the B/S/T here, ebay, and elsewhere for barrels. As far as I know, nobody makes them anymore and used is your only way of finding a replacement.

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      • Tao
        Registered User
        • Jan 2006
        • 834

        #4
        Originally posted by RetroMagMan
        New to paint ball here... wondering about barrels. I have a clasic auto mag now, had Retro.. any way. was wondering.. i have 2 short barrels 1 is like 2 inches sticking out of my gun and is aluminum other one is stainless and is about 5 inches. They both seem to shoot ok. but was wondering if longer barrels shot further..and or if they are longer with holes are they quieter. I want to shoot as far as possibe but with good volocity.. want quite too. is there a barrel that does that... or is it more the gun? Mine seem to me just as load as my tippman. I was told Auto mags were quite. ANy ideas.
        Longer barrels only shoot further than shorter barrels by the difference in their size. Noise level you will have to take them out and test them yourself. Distance is all in what you are chronoed at. If you do that remember to chrono inbetween changing varrels since the velocity of your shots will change.

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        • geekwarrior
          MIA
          • Oct 2005
          • 2581

          #5
          you also want to match your paint to your barrel, or barrel to your paint. Brands of paint vary a little in size, you want a nice snug fit, and you want paint that is consistent in size/shape.

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          • SR_matt
            Santa Sucks
            • Jun 2006
            • 1072

            #6
            length of barrel gives a little extra distance the longer it is but not a whole lot (basicaly you wont tell really, you will be able to tell the balls curving off more than shoting shorter distances).

            basicaly get the barrel you like and then try to get a good paint to barrel match. i personaly liek dye barrels but in all honesty most barrels are alike (some times the porting patterns will mess up a barrel, like the SP barrels, when you break paint you need to wash out the porting before the paint flys straigt again. seen that from working at a field for 2 years)

            -matt

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            • Russ
              Senior Membrane
              • Jul 2001
              • 1935

              #7
              Originally posted by SR_matt
              length of barrel gives a little extra distance the longer it is but ...

              -matt
              Good grief, Matt, weren't you paying attention is class!?

              that's bogus info you're passing along

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              • Tao
                Registered User
                • Jan 2006
                • 834

                #8
                Originally posted by Russ
                Good grief, Matt, weren't you paying attention is class!?

                that's bogus info you're passing along
                Its somewhat true...a 15" barrel will send a ball 5" further than a 10" barrel

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                • viper-mayhem
                  sinisterops.com
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 153

                  #9
                  ^^^285 Feets per second at the chrono is still 285 fps regardless of barrel length. That is at the tip of any barrel being chrono'd.

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                  • SR_matt
                    Santa Sucks
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1072

                    #10
                    and thus would lead into the argument of barrel length and pressure changing the distance a ball shootss or not.

                    if you have played long enough or just had some one that has palyed long enough point out exactly how it does work out you will see it. for the most part it is small but it ends up being enough to give you the special shot when the other guys just bounce you can get a break on them.

                    there are so many variables that lead to why it works out you cant easily explain it (it has to do with how the force is applied and how long it takes lots of complicated stuff that friends far smarter than i have explained to me and shown how it works out), but i promise you that a longer barrel or setting the pressure out put of your gun even with it still being under 300fps you will get a little more distance, not feet nessecarly but a some).
                    -matt

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                    • Russ
                      Senior Membrane
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 1935

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SR_matt
                      and thus would lead into the argument of barrel length and pressure changing the distance a ball shootss or not.

                      if you have played long enough or just had some one that has palyed long enough point out exactly how it does work out you will see it. for the most part it is small but it ends up being enough to give you the special shot when the other guys just bounce you can get a break on them.

                      there are so many variables that lead to why it works out you cant easily explain it (it has to do with how the force is applied and how long it takes lots of complicated stuff that friends far smarter than i have explained to me and shown how it works out), but i promise you that a longer barrel or setting the pressure out put of your gun even with it still being under 300fps you will get a little more distance, not feet nessecarly but a some).
                      -matt

                      Argue 'till you're blue in the face...you are still wrong!

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                      • SR_matt
                        Santa Sucks
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1072

                        #12
                        what ever you say bro, but ive had enough people with more match and science background that you could ever imangine tell me i am right. so when you get hit from a player you cant hit when you are shooting at 295 and you flip out and claim their are cheating and they are shooting well under the limit remember "told ya so"
                        -matt

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                        • hmudd13
                          Resident Marker Monger
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 260

                          #13
                          I used to have an 18" barrel and a 21" that would chrono at the same speed as my 14" but the balls would fall shorter.
                          I going out on a limb here but I think the increased drag on the ball IN the barrel may have caused this problem. These were non ported barrels, and they were the same ID from front to back.
                          The balls (though exiting at 295 fps) may have been already starting to decelerate.
                          Where as the shorter barrels allowed the balls to be at the top of exceleration when leaving the barrel.
                          There, i said it.

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                          • Russ
                            Senior Membrane
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 1935

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SR_matt
                            ...but ive had enough people with more match and science background that you could ever imangine tell me i am right. -matt
                            If TK told you, would you beleive it?

                            You're not the first kid who thinks the rules of physics are "different" just for paintballs.

                            If you want "The Truth", I recommend some reading in the archives. It's been discussed here, ad nauseaum...

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                            • Russ
                              Senior Membrane
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 1935

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hmudd13
                              I used to have an 18" barrel and a 21" that would chrono at the same speed as my 14" but the balls would fall shorter.
                              I going out on a limb here but I think the increased drag on the ball IN the barrel may have caused this problem. These were non ported barrels, and they were the same ID from front to back.
                              The balls (though exiting at 295 fps) may have been already starting to decelerate.
                              Where as the shorter barrels allowed the balls to be at the top of exceleration when leaving the barrel.
                              There, i said it.

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