confused about the RT

[centurian]

Hi. I'm checking into getting a AGD marker. My question/s are this, there are not very many pictures in the website and that makes it hard to understand what they mean by verticle and power feed in the ule body or does power feed mean warp feed? They also talk about the different grips. Is that the other main part of the marker? If I am understanding correctly the main body sits on top of the grip and that is what holds all of the internal components? If I get the ule main body, does that mean that I can use autococker threaded barrels? I was also reading about the feed neck. What does it mean when it say the threading is angel? Does that mean that I have to get Angel style hoppers? What is the difference between the intelliframe and the y frame?

Sorry for all of the questions, the web site is just not very clear in its description in my opinion.

Thanks for the time.

John

[Tunaman]

The Ule body is the new style aluminum body. It takes cocker barrels and angel threaded feednecks. These are the commom threads in the industry that is why AGD used them. The powerfeed bodies are stainless steel and take twist lock barrels only. The intelliframe is a 45 degree style frame and the y grip is more tilted forward.

[Tao]

Hi. I'm checking into getting a AGD marker. My question/s are this, there are not very many pictures in the website and that makes it hard to understand what they mean by verticle and power feed in the ule body or does power feed mean warp feed? They also talk about the different grips. Is that the other main part of the marker? If I am understanding correctly the main body sits on top of the grip and that is what holds all of the internal components? If I get the ule main body, does that mean that I can use autococker threaded barrels? I was also reading about the feed neck. What does it mean when it say the threading is angel? Does that mean that I have to get Angel style hoppers? What is the difference between the intelliframe and the y frame?

Sorry for all of the questions, the web site is just not very clear in its description in my opinion.

Thanks for the time.

John

Well welcome to the wonderful world of mags! they are quite simple actually and I will try to give you the break down. I guess for a guide to help you understand I will go by the selections of the online store for the "RT ULE custom".

First though a Mag can be broken down into a few primary pieces:

The valve (which contains all the functional parts, including the bolt, but except for the sear)
The main body
The rail (attaches mainbody to trigger grip frame) The sear sits between the grip and rail.
Gripframe
and of cource barrel.

AGD has two main types of mainbodies: Stainless steel and aluminium (the ULE bodies)

The stainless bodies are either centre feed (rare) http://www.airgun.com/museum/Norise.htm or powerfeed http://www.airgun.com/museum/StainlessMB.htm. Also these bodies comein warp style bodies which are virtually identical to the powerfeed bodies except that they have the top stack cut down a bit.
The stainless bodies use the AGD "Twist lock" style barels which don't screw into the gun, but go in and then turn a quarter turn to lock in place.

The ULE bodies are either centre feed http://www.airgun.com/museum/ULE.htm or warp. The warp ULE bodies have a feed port that sticks out of the side at a right angle http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fu...tegoryID=10not like the powerfeed type stainless warp bodies.
The ULE bodies use Cocker threaded barrels so you CANNOT use the AGD Twist lock style barrels. Cocker threaded barrels are the most common type out there.

To answer your questions:
Power feed is an older style type of feed port not see anymore which looks like this: http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fu...&categoryID=10. You need a 45 degree elbow to attack a hopper to it.

The different grips serve different purposes, but the valves themselves contain the major parts. The different grips won't add or subtract any performance of the gun.

The stock trigger is a basic "single" trigger"

The inteli frame gives a "double" or "blade" trigger which is twice as long as a standard one. it also allows the user to ADD (you need to modify it yourself) a simple modification to conect the trigger to an electric hopper to have it feed a ball everytime the trigger is pulled.

The Y grip gives a double trigger and is more comfortable to hold as long as you don't have a butt stock for the gun and hold the gun closer to your shoulder.

The mainbody technically sits on a rail which connects mainbody and grip frame. You don't need to worry about that. The valve houses all the internal componants and attaches to the rail and the half of the valve with the bolt sits inside the mainbody.

As I said earlier the ULE body uses cocker barrels. The stainless ones (powerfeed) do not.

The mainbody accepts FEEDNECKS which use angel feedneck threads. Now adays you can select your own feedneck to attach your hopper to. Several companies offered this variety at once, but they all use their own style of threading to attach them to the mainbody. The most accepted threading for feedneck accessories are Angle threads. Don't worry, the size of the hopper neck is standard and any hopper should fit any feedneck. The fit may be tight and the hopper neck may need to be sanded slightly. This is for ULE bodies only, since the stainless bodies have fixed hopper mountings.

I mentioned the differece between the inteli and the Y frame earlier. On a last note, the Y frame doesn't have the ability to add the modification to connect it to your electronic hopper.

Hope this helps! :)

Now for the more confusing stuff you might run into on the RT ULE page:

With the stainless bodies you have powerfeed and warp feed. A power feed bodies will function as a warp bodies with a proper reverse plug http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fu...&categoryID=19 . The stainless warp bodies can be used as power fedd bodies, but they have trouble holding the 45 degree elbos used to attach thehoppers to powerfeed bodies.
ok....
A power feed left gun puts the hopper on the left side of the gun. A PF right, puts it on the right side. Simple enough.
A Warp left is meant to mount the warp on the left side of the gun and vice versa.
now...
A powerfeed LEFT will function as a warp RIGHT and vice versa. A warp LEFT can function as a powerfedd RIGHT and vice versa.
*Remember* all the above was for STAINLESS BODIES

If you are wondering which warp design to get (for either style body):
Warp LEFT for RIGHT handers (if you pull the trigger with your right hand). And vice versa.

The ULE bodies will either do centre feed and can use a warp feed with an addapter (comes with the warp http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fu...&categoryID=19 ...which is pretty ugly (but functional. A ULE warp body will ONLY use a warp.

The final hitch if you are buying a RT ULE custom....which on/off to get? Get the standard one NOT the "Ultra light trigger pull kit (ULT). This is best for beginners and you can always get the ULT for $50 and it is a quick install.


Again, hopefully this helps.

[centurian]

Thank you very much. That was some good information.

John