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  • JRingold
    Big Fat Guy
    • Apr 2002
    • 772
    #1

    Level 10 O-Ring

    As I look at the parts list and installation instructions shown here (http://www.automags.org/resource/level10/index.shtml)...



    Parts List:
    1. Backing washer
    2. Power tube o-ring
    3. Carrier O-ring
    4. Carrier
    5. Shims
    6. Power tube O-ring
    7. Power tube tip
    8. Superbolt
    9. Main spring


    Are parts #2 and #6 the same? The o-ring that goes in the carrier is the same as the one that goes around the power tube tip? Is this right? It doesn't seem that the o-rings I have inside the carriers are large enough to fit over the power tube tip...

    I seem to be going through a number of these o-rings lately (used as #2) and would like to order more, but I want to be sure I get the right product.
    I went like this :shooting:
    He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
    Now he shoots a Mag too...

    -JR
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    • WingMan13
      Registered User
      • Oct 2003
      • 828
      #2
      I actually had the same question myself. JRingold, are you getting a leak down the barrel? If so does it stop when you hold the trigger down?

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        • mostpeople
          Registered User
          • Mar 2007
          • 1680
          #3
          They look different..

          so I would say no

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            • Spider-TW
              U R techno-literate!

              • Oct 2006
              • 3554
              #4
              They are different sizes.

              What is happening with the #2s that you cannot fix with a smaller carrier?

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                • maglover728
                  Boomer!
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1093
                  #5
                  No, why?
                  stay proud, Stay mechanical!

                  And my feed back is at: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1771790#post1771790

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                    • Madmarx
                      Mentally Unstable

                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2867
                      #6
                      They are very different.
                      #2 fits inside the carrier and #6 fits over the outside of the powertube tip.

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                        • Russ
                          Senior Membrane
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 1935
                          #7
                          As was said, they are NOT the same.

                          I get very good life out of the LX power tube O rings. My only "concern" (if you want to call it that) is that I seem to be using only the very smallest carriers...

                          One of my Mags has the "1 ring" while the other has the "1 dot"

                          In 5+ years of LX use, I've never used a carrier bigger than 2 rings. It seems to me that the range of the carriers favors the "way too big" side. All the O rings I've ever used came from AGD or Tunaman.

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                            • JRingold
                              Big Fat Guy
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 772
                              #8
                              That seems to be the issue I am having. Leaking down the barrel, or first shot shoot down with the smallest carrier installed. So I change out the o-ring, change the carrier, starting with the 2-line, then after about 500 shots, move down to 1.5, and it keeps progressing. It's early in the season so I think much of it is caused by storage, but I replaced three of them on Sunday during a scenario game and I had to hold the trigger all afternoon when I wasn't shooting, because I didn't have a chance to go change a carrier.

                              Or should I be thinking ULT and not Level 10 issues?
                              I went like this :shooting:
                              He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                              Now he shoots a Mag too...

                              -JR

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                                • rb211
                                  Poodles suck!
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 438
                                  #9
                                  How many shims do you have in the level 10?

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                                    • Cleric
                                      Registered User
                                      • Mar 2007
                                      • 142
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by JRingold
                                      That seems to be the issue I am having. Leaking down the barrel, or first shot shoot down with the smallest carrier installed. So I change out the o-ring, change the carrier, starting with the 2-line, then after about 500 shots, move down to 1.5, and it keeps progressing. It's early in the season so I think much of it is caused by storage, but I replaced three of them on Sunday during a scenario game and I had to hold the trigger all afternoon when I wasn't shooting, because I didn't have a chance to go change a carrier.

                                      Or should I be thinking ULT and not Level 10 issues?


                                      i am having the same problem..i actually got a new carrier and it worked fine for about 500 shots then started to leak again, no matter what size carrier i have leaks when the trigger is out, even with the smallest carrier, i get bolt stick, but when i gas it up i still get leaks...
                                      i believe the problem is the ult orings, i am oging to change them all tomorrow

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                                        • JRingold
                                          Big Fat Guy
                                          • Apr 2002
                                          • 772
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by RogueFactor
                                          Shootdown is not caused by the carrier size.

                                          Carriers are simply for the purpose of sealing the bolt. Too big, and it leaks. To small, and it sticks. So the trick is to find the carrier that doesnt leak, and doesnt stick...the one that is juuuust right. There is no other magic to the carriers. That is their only purpose.
                                          Is First shot shoot down the same? When I heep the trigger pulled, there is no leak and there is no issue. When I leave it, there is a little leak down the barrel. Could be that I have two separate issues, one with the ULT and one with the carrier size...

                                          I only have two shims in the Level 10. I think I really need to just have some time to mess with it... I can't troubleshoot it in the house, as the wife gets angry at the sound it makes, and I can't get out to a field because the wife gets angry because I'm "hiding". Damned if I do and damned if I don't...
                                          I went like this :shooting:
                                          He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                                          Now he shoots a Mag too...

                                          -JR

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                                            • Mongoose
                                              VenomousDesigns.com

                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 1593
                                              #12
                                              Rogue, i would like to change my o rings in my x valve, what do i need? and can i get them form you?
                                              also where is this pin you talk about? do you see it when you split the valve?

                                              i have a pnuemag but im getting a bit of shootdown. everything looks good and i tuned it well. so im guessing its the used x valve i put in. i can get 15 bps with it,

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                                                • JRingold
                                                  Big Fat Guy
                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                  • 772
                                                  #13
                                                  Sounds to me like I need to get out to the field, get the right carrier and then see if there's something with the ULT...
                                                  I went like this :shooting:
                                                  He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                                                  Now he shoots a Mag too...

                                                  -JR

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                                                    • JRingold
                                                      Big Fat Guy
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 772
                                                      #14
                                                      Do you have a similar diagram with part numbers for the ULE Trigger Kit?
                                                      I went like this :shooting:
                                                      He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                                                      Now he shoots a Mag too...

                                                      -JR

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                                                        • RogueFactor
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 633
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by JRingold
                                                          Do you have a similar diagram with part numbers for the ULE Trigger Kit?
                                                          No. One does not exist.

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