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  • Badmovies.org
    Mostly harmless
    • Nov 2002
    • 250

    #1

    Completely De-gassing Problem

    Here is my problem, I want to be able to completely de-gas my marker.

    The only line is a single piece of steel-braided hose from the valve to the AGD Flatline. I have a quick disconnect at the Flatline end of the 13" hose. If I turn off the Flatline, I can fire three or four shots and the pressure between the Flatline and the valve drops to about 380 psi. However, I cannot remove that pressure unless I pop the quick disconnect.

    Does anyone know of another way? In the past, I have always used screw-in tanks and either had a remote or an on/off ASA. Trying to figure out a solution for this one has me stumped.

    Picture of the setup:
    Andrew Borntreger
    Champion of cinematic disasters

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    14" All American
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    12 volt Revolution w/X-Board
    Gas-Thru Stock w/88 ci 4500psi tank
    Modified tactical carbine harness
  • flyingpootang
    Magtechian with X disease

    • Dec 2005
    • 2276

    #2
    Here ya go.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-Paintb...QQcmdZViewItem

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    • Madmarx
      Mentally Unstable

      • Jun 2006
      • 2867

      #3
      I second pootangs suggestion.
      With that setup you don't have many options.
      I'd look around for a nice slidecheck.
      Post a pic when you're done.
      Last edited by Madmarx; 05-14-2007, 04:50 PM. Reason: oops misspelled poontangs name

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      • Russ
        Senior Membrane
        • Jul 2001
        • 1935

        #4
        Sweet marker!

        After I take those last few shots, I just pop off the QD, all 400 PSI or-so. If Im in no hurry, that pressure will bleed off after a minute or three. Some slide checks can be restrictive...

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        • Smoothice
          Registered User

          • Nov 2006
          • 4579

          #5
          If it helps. I have purchased from Zephyr before and it went very well. Not on ebay but from their online store.

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          • Badmovies.org
            Mostly harmless
            • Nov 2002
            • 250

            #6
            I second pootangs suggestion.
            With that setup you don't have many options.
            I'd look around for a nice slidecheck.
            To my knowledge, a slidecheck will only turn the air on/off - it does not vent the pressure in the line. This is something I can already do on the Flatline Regulator by turning the knob on the bottom (mounted on the marker, it is easy to reach - things would be different with a remote).

            My problem is not being able to vent that last 400 psi from the line between the regulator and the valve. If a slidecheck does that, I am golden. From what I know, that is not the case.

            If Im in no hurry, that pressure will bleed off after a minute or three.
            Unfortunately, one of my other weird hangups is making sure that I do not have any leaks. I made sure to do so on the MiniTac Pro. It will maintain that 400 psi for days.
            Andrew Borntreger
            Champion of cinematic disasters

            Black automag powerfeed w/lvl 10
            14" All American
            Intelliframe w/Hogue grips
            12 volt Revolution w/X-Board
            Gas-Thru Stock w/88 ci 4500psi tank
            Modified tactical carbine harness

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            • Tunaman
              Specialized AGD Tech

              • Dec 2000
              • 8643

              #7
              Originally posted by Badmovies.org
              To my knowledge, a slidecheck will only turn the air on/off - it does not vent the pressure in the line. This is something I can already do on the Flatline Regulator by turning the knob on the bottom (mounted on the marker, it is easy to reach - things would be different with a remote).

              My problem is not being able to vent that last 400 psi from the line between the regulator and the valve. If a slidecheck does that, I am golden. From what I know, that is not the case.



              Unfortunately, one of my other weird hangups is making sure that I do not have any leaks. I made sure to do so on the MiniTac Pro. It will maintain that 400 psi for days.
              I think he meant just shoot it down to the last shot then pop the QD. You can do it.
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              • Badmovies.org
                Mostly harmless
                • Nov 2002
                • 250

                #8
                Originally posted by Tunaman
                I think he meant just shoot it down to the last shot then pop the QD. You can do it.

                Well, yes, that is the solution I have been using. I was just looking to see if there was any other way.
                Andrew Borntreger
                Champion of cinematic disasters

                Black automag powerfeed w/lvl 10
                14" All American
                Intelliframe w/Hogue grips
                12 volt Revolution w/X-Board
                Gas-Thru Stock w/88 ci 4500psi tank
                Modified tactical carbine harness

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                • Madmarx
                  Mentally Unstable

                  • Jun 2006
                  • 2867

                  #9
                  Both slidechecks I have vent the pressure and shut off the gas.

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                  • MANN
                    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 4266

                    #10
                    I had the exact same problem with my xmag.

                    My solution. Place a slidecheck in line. Degas the marker. unscrew the pressure on the adjustable tank. remove the quick dissconnect. turn the pressure back on, and it will drain the little bit of gas out the line. I can get pics later if you like.

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                    • spectre184
                      PF classic owner
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 228

                      #11
                      I had same problem with my mag and it's set up like yours hose wise.

                      I also do what Mann does.

                      I used a quick disconnect with check valve down by the ASA. I turn off air at ASA and shoot off any remaining gas as much as possible. Pop the disconnect and bleed off from ASA and tank. But I still have air pressure in line up to AIR valve due to check valve. I then unscrew and remove tank and reconnect hose in disconnect and bleed off remaining air pressure backwords thru ASA since tank is off. I know sounds like a PITA but with a mag I do this at end of day since their so reliable

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                      • Russ
                        Senior Membrane
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 1935

                        #12
                        Call me demeted, but I don't see a problem here.

                        disconnecting the QD bleeds off any residual air trapped in the line & valve. Adding more components (a side check) just seems to add more hardware (with more fittings, and more weight) with little to no "payoff"

                        to each his own, I say :)

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                        • Russ
                          Senior Membrane
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 1935

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tunaman
                          I think he meant just shoot it down to the last shot then pop the QD. You can do it.
                          Yep, that's what I'm sayin'

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                          • Foxworthy
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 130

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Russ
                            Call me demeted, but I don't see a problem here.

                            disconnecting the QD bleeds off any residual air trapped in the line & valve. Adding more components (a side check) just seems to add more hardware (with more fittings, and more weight) with little to no "payoff"

                            to each his own, I say :)
                            Yes but it also increases the chances of losing the QD's o-ring since the air can force it out. The slide check bleeds the line and helps prevent that.

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                            • Russ
                              Senior Membrane
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 1935

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Foxworthy
                              Yes but it also increases the chances of losing the QD's o-ring since the air can force it out. The slide check bleeds the line and helps prevent that.
                              Good point!

                              So far, I have been lucky. I use the QD's from AGD, which have held up quite well for 5+ years

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