How exactly are E-mag magnets mounted?

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  • mostpeople
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 1680

    #1

    How exactly are E-mag magnets mounted?

    Anyone know?
  • Russ
    Senior Membrane
    • Jul 2001
    • 1935

    #2
    which ones?

    there are 3 locations...

    the frame mounted return magnets just sit in a counterbore

    the (top) trigger return magnet is glued into the trigger

    the HES magnet is screwed into the backside of the trigger

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    • Tao
      Registered User
      • Jan 2006
      • 834

      #3
      Originally posted by mostpeople
      Anyone know?
      The magnet in the rail which attracts the top of the trigger (so that the trigger returns) sit in place.

      The magnet on the top of the trigger which is attracted to the one(s) in the rail is glued in place.

      The magnet in the middle of the trigger which activates the gun is mounted on a screw which screws in and out of the trigger.

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      • wetwrks
        Splatting since '85

        • Jun 2007
        • 1828

        #4
        Um, guys. I don't know a lot about how these are wired but just make certain that the wireing is kept away from those magnets. It will affect the battery and its charge.

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        • MANN
          I am in TN. GO VOLS.
          • Apr 2006
          • 4266

          #5
          Originally posted by wetwrks
          Um, guys. I don't know a lot about how these are wired but just make certain that the wireing is kept away from those magnets. It will affect the battery and its charge.

          LOL. While I am sure there is some textbook answer to this. E/Xmags are wired with the wire going right next to the magnet, and there is no problem. At least not with the handfull that I own.

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          • wetwrks
            Splatting since '85

            • Jun 2007
            • 1828

            #6
            I know that the battery packs I built for the medical industry that had magnets in them had a quicker recharge rate and a quicker burnout rate (shorter lifespan).

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            • MANN
              I am in TN. GO VOLS.
              • Apr 2006
              • 4266

              #7
              Originally posted by wetwrks
              I know that the battery packs I built for the medical industry that had magnets in them had a quicker recharge rate and a quicker burnout rate (shorter lifespan).
              What size magnets are you talking about tho? Xmags were discontinued a long time ago, and I have 3 all with good batteries.

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              • Russ
                Senior Membrane
                • Jul 2001
                • 1935

                #8
                Originally posted by wetwrks
                Um, guys. I don't know a lot about how these are wired but just make certain that the wireing is kept away from those magnets. It will affect the battery and its charge.

                wha' 'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

                sometimes it's best NOT to post...this was one of those times

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                • wetwrks
                  Splatting since '85

                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1828

                  #9
                  Why is it best not to post. Working in the battery industry and having knowledge that most don't is an asset. Simply because most people are unknowledgeable about this doesn't mean that I shouldn't alert them.

                  The magnets are slightly smaller around than a pencil eraser. They are a little more powerful than the average magnet but not on the level of the "earth" magnets.

                  Here is a photo:



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                  • athomas
                    Of course it works-its AGD
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8039

                    #10
                    I have worked with electronics and batteries for the past 20 years and have never heard of magnets affecting batteries. Am I missing something? Fill me in on the magnet concept and theory of operation. I do use ferrite beads and disks though, which can reduce electrical noise when installed properly.
                    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                    • wetwrks
                      Splatting since '85

                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1828

                      #11
                      To boil it down, electricity flows because of positive and negative charges. The magnet also affects positive and negative charges. Either pulling or repelling. This can draw an electrical charge through the wires or it can slow that charge.

                      Look to the interractive example here:

                      Explore the principles of Lenz's law with this interactive Java tutorial that demonstrates electromagnetic field induction.

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                      • Russ
                        Senior Membrane
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 1935

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wetwrks
                        To boil it down, blah blah blah blah blah.


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                        • wetwrks
                          Splatting since '85

                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1828

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Russ

                          Excuse me, what did I do to T you off?

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                          • athomas
                            Of course it works-its AGD
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8039

                            #14
                            You have to have movement through the lines of flux to induce electrical flow. This can be accomplished by a changing magnetic field due to movement of the magnet or by an alternating current. A magnet without movement will not induce or retard electron flow.
                            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                            • wetwrks
                              Splatting since '85

                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1828

                              #15
                              Originally posted by athomas
                              You have to have movement through the lines of flux to induce electrical flow. This can be accomplished by a changing magnetic field due to movement of the magnet or by an alternating current. A magnet without movement will not induce or retard electron flow.

                              So then the magnets on the trigger arn't moving?

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