smallest4 wya solenoid???

**nicad** · 09-09-2007, 11:10 AM

Look into the Mac valves series 43 or 41.

**p8ntbal4me** · 09-09-2007, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by nicad

Look into the Mac valves series 43 or 41.

FYI:

Stay away from the 43 series. Or at least TRY to.

Ive had a bunch of them fail on me for no reason,... and the body on some of them needs a protective shielding after you run leads to them off the board as it will ground out and not work. Dont ask why,... comes straight from the MAC distributor I used. And besides that,... you can try if you like,.. but the results will not make you happy.

The 44-46 series is what replaced the 43 series. I have had some good luck with a 46 if you need a good 4-5 way.

MAC valves IMHO are a reasonable priced, high quality noid. If you can afford them,... Humphry is the way to go,... but hard to work with on a frame that doesnt allow for much room.

~ P8nt

**GriMachine** · 09-09-2007, 03:27 PM

Try Clippard.com. they have all kinds of solenoids. mabey one of there solenoids are what your looking for.

**p8ntbal4me** · 09-09-2007, 04:09 PM

If you can catch him (hes pretty busy with his UM Frames),.. talk with Coolhand.

He used a very small 3-way from Numatics

You also might want to check out the Tinkers Guild 2.0 for information.

Lots of guys over there are inputing specs on noids all the time.

Any other information you need you can contact ASP,.. or red up on the manuals he links to his noids on the store front.

~ P8nt

**nicad** · 09-09-2007, 04:31 PM

What pressure and flow requirements do you need? That will also determine what is available.
Also, can you get away with 3-way, or must it be a 4-way?

**pablo4429** · 09-09-2007, 11:58 PM

well its gonna sounds pretty goddamn asinine but i want to try to put the solenoid of an eblade, or something comparable, into the body (behind an mq valve or in the grip frame) of a cocker and use an airbolt setup to operate the bolt, and maybe use a tboard instead of the zero b if it controls two solenoids or some tiny board that controls two solenoids. so you i need a solenoid that works the same as an eblade just without the big hump on the bottom

**p8ntbal4me** · 09-10-2007, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by pablo4429

well its gonna sounds pretty goddamn asinine but i want to try to put the solenoid of an eblade, or something comparable, into the body (behind an mq valve or in the grip frame) of a cocker and use an airbolt setup to operate the bolt, and maybe use a tboard instead of the zero b if it controls two solenoids or some tiny board that controls two solenoids. so you i need a solenoid that works the same as an eblade just without the big hump on the bottom

So are you using this in a cocker application or a mag?
Thats my first question.

Second question is: what frame are you using? (to give us a space idea to help you)

I would look into the T-Board cocker setups a bit more before commiting to them.
I have been reading up on some of them,.. and some people had some bad things to say about them.

Personally,... get a new Morlock. If you choose,.. they will drive 2 solenoids. I personally have 2 of them one in an Angel,.. the other in a E-Mag,.... they are the best for what you are looking for. Make sure you choose the one that drives dual noids,... you have to choose when you order.

And your project doesnt sound assinine at all.... you will find some pretty extreme work done on this forum by AGD users.

**outreach** · 09-10-2007, 08:44 AM

you need to keep me filled in, i wanted to do one of theese to but always lack the cash

**pablo4429** · 09-10-2007, 12:14 PM

its for a cocker andi already have an eblade 1 frame and niod so i want to try to stuff it into the frame because it isnt going to fit behind an mq valve. the reason i was really looking at the t board is because of how small it is, but ill look at the morlock, what is the smallest two solenoid board out there now? and will this noid work as a replacement

http://www.humphrey-products.com/hpwpc.nsf/E43A21DF7E05203D85256A010066527C/$file/H110AP06.pdf

the h110-4a with a voltage regulator down to whatever the eblade solenoid is, like 5.6 volts or something

**p8ntbal4me** · 09-10-2007, 03:36 PM

Go under the link that I gave you for the Nuematic noids.

In there,.. there are noids that are cylinder bore to match the piston you want to mount it to.

If you get the diagram with the measurements of the mQ valve,... or you want to use a direct in-line poppet ram to the valve,... these things are something I think you are looking for.

There are 4 types. 3 of which are double acting,... 1 is a single. They can make the noid that mounts to any bore or barrel of your choice.

FYI: Kerry Johnson has a pattent on this concept you are looking into (one of the guys that works with the mQ) . If you want the pattent number,.. look under the inventor name: johnson and the city: madison.

It was called the "air hammer". They made one proto-type. As soon as the mQ came along,... they dropped the air hammer all together.

If you have some questions,... he may be the guy to ask. Pretty nice guy from my dealing with him via concept and ideas.

~ P8nt

**p8ntbal4me** · 09-10-2007, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by pablo4429

its for a cocker andi already have an eblade 1 frame and niod so i want to try to stuff it into the frame because it isnt going to fit behind an mq valve. the reason i was really looking at the t board is because of how small it is, but ill look at the morlock, what is the smallest two solenoid board out there now? and will this noid work as a replacement

http://www.humphrey-products.com/hpwpc.nsf/E43A21DF7E05203D85256A010066527C/$file/H110AP06.pdf

the h110-4a with a voltage regulator down to whatever the eblade solenoid is, like 5.6 volts or something

If your looking for the smallest board,... the morlock is it.

**pablo4429** · 09-11-2007, 01:16 AM

the purpose of the noid behind the mq is just as an option to hide it and still have it fire the ram. if i got this right kerry johsnons air hammer was to actuate the hammer not the ram right? so that company can make custom 4 way or 3 way, which is it technically, for the cocker that i can fit into the approx 1.5 inches ill have left behind the mq? because if that is true that is way cool and will defiantly have a buyer soon.

**p8ntbal4me** · 09-11-2007, 03:46 AM

From what I gathered,..... from him,... it was to eliminate the sear, add a ram to the stock poppet, and do it that way.

If there was another way to do it,.... Im sure you could and sell it.

smallest4 wya solenoid???

smallest4 wya solenoid???

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