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  • Dend78
    Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
    • Oct 2004
    • 2963

    #1

    Question for AIR Monkeys

    just wondering here, i got a tank and come to find out the burst disk hole threads have been stripped, so i was thinking how about a bushing? drill and tap the reg housing a lil bit to make one fit? lil loctite on the bushing threads (the good stuff not crappy lil bule) get it set in there and then the burst disk should be good to go. i figure this way even if the loctite fails it wont go shooting out since its been rethreaded at the larger size, actually the burst disk will still hold the seal so it shouldnt matter if the lt fails to seal it perfectly. just a thought what do you guys think?
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  • Spider-TW
    U R techno-literate!

    • Oct 2006
    • 3554

    #2
    eeww...

    If you drill on the body it will definitely weaken it when it comes to handling pressure. Even threading it for an imaginary burst disk of the next larger metric size makes you the owner and designer of your own high pressure regulator. I'm happy tweaking regulators, but I never mess with wall thickness or fasteners.

    That really sounds like a factory or used body replacement.

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    • Dend78
      Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
      • Oct 2004
      • 2963

      #3
      well its not gonna mess with it to much, especially since the seal is between the burst disk and the reg wall. plus its a PE reg so i wouldnt be to awful upset if i killed it. but on the other hand if it were to work like i think it would life would be good. obvioulsy it would be a slow filler, like 1000psi see if it blasts off, then let it sit for a week to see if it holds the pressure, then add another 1000psi and so on until your at 4500 besides whats the worst that could happen
      2k2 Angel LCD
      turbo trigger
      CP volumizer
      PIPE KIT

      2k Angel CnC LCD
      Vert Frame
      Freak Barrel

      B2k x-milled
      micro rock
      Dye sticky 3's
      vertical max-flo
      Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

      Egg 2 y board
      Empire Reloader
      Dye Throttle 91/4500
      Crossfire 114ci/3000
      Angel Air Reg

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #4
        I hear what your saying about the wall. The reg collars have plenty of depth to them too.

        However, make sure you leave a thickness above and below the bushing that is at least comparable to the exposed thickness of a high pressure fitting. There are 'hoop' stresses in two directions there that could lift a thin spot (if it's on the shoulder of the reg).

        Also consider that a bushing will have around four times the force on the threads from the pressure because of its larger diameter.

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        • SuiCide6
          Registered User
          • Dec 2004
          • 173

          #5
          id go with buying a new reg id rather be safe than sorry especially with air tanks
          undefinedIF YOU RUN YOU'LL ONLY DIE TIRED

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          • angrysasquatch
            Registered User
            • Jun 2006
            • 279

            #6
            Maybe you could tap it to the next size and use a helicoil with a burst disc. Use green loctite between the helicoil and wall, though.

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            • Spider-TW
              U R techno-literate!

              • Oct 2006
              • 3554

              #7
              Originally posted by angrysasquatch
              Maybe you could tap it to the next size and use a helicoil with a burst disc. Use green loctite between the helicoil and wall, though.
              That occured to me also, but I've never seen a helicoil used under pressure and will loctite seal those gaps under that pressure? I guess I would try that over a bushing.

              Oh, and that would be a blind hole to tap for the helicoil (or bushing). You would probably need starter and a mid tap for the tapered bushing or a starter and bottom tap for the helicoil.

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              • Dend78
                Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
                • Oct 2004
                • 2963

                #8
                ive thought about a helicoil as well ill do some serious lookin and see what i can figure out

                keep your eye on the Indiana news if you see something about a guy who blew his left arm off, messin with a compressed air tank regulator PM me for pics and things and ill get em to ya as soon as i can
                2k2 Angel LCD
                turbo trigger
                CP volumizer
                PIPE KIT

                2k Angel CnC LCD
                Vert Frame
                Freak Barrel

                B2k x-milled
                micro rock
                Dye sticky 3's
                vertical max-flo
                Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

                Egg 2 y board
                Empire Reloader
                Dye Throttle 91/4500
                Crossfire 114ci/3000
                Angel Air Reg

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                • Spider-TW
                  U R techno-literate!

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3554

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dend78
                  ive thought about a helicoil as well ill do some serious lookin and see what i can figure out

                  keep your eye on the Indiana news if you see something about a guy who blew his left arm off, messin with a compressed air tank regulator PM me for pics and things and ill get em to ya as soon as i can
                  No thanks. I had a good safety refresher class the other day that was mostly pics. Bleh!

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                  • Dend78
                    Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 2963

                    #10
                    ill only send the good ones, like of my hot nurse and stuff like that. now see kids this is why you dont mess with things that can hurt you



                    2k2 Angel LCD
                    turbo trigger
                    CP volumizer
                    PIPE KIT

                    2k Angel CnC LCD
                    Vert Frame
                    Freak Barrel

                    B2k x-milled
                    micro rock
                    Dye sticky 3's
                    vertical max-flo
                    Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

                    Egg 2 y board
                    Empire Reloader
                    Dye Throttle 91/4500
                    Crossfire 114ci/3000
                    Angel Air Reg

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                    • pyrodragon
                      Retired Mag Lover
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 224

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dend78
                      ill only send the good ones, like of my hot nurse and stuff like that. now see kids this is why you dont mess with things that can hurt you
                      because it always cost you in the end
                      shoot you later
                      i play for the game not the fame.

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                      • Railgun
                        Hit me, I'm a target
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 93

                        #12
                        I gather this is the HP side and not the output side from your mentioning about slowly working up to the 4500 psi. With that being the case there's only one sane way to go with this.... buy a new body for the reg or just buy an new reg. The issue being that if the body is weakened then it may not be the burst disc that goes but the body itself and you could easily end up wiht a part of the body or the burst disc body ricocheting around the room or embedded in your body. 3000 psi is not something to be trifled with.

                        If it was on the other side I may be inclined to look at it but that's still a big IF. It's just best to buy a new body for the guts to go into or a whole new reg.

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                        • Dend78
                          Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 2963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Railgun
                          I gather this is the HP side and not the output side from your mentioning about slowly working up to the 4500 psi. With that being the case there's only one sane way to go with this.... buy a new body for the reg or just buy an new reg. The issue being that if the body is weakened then it may not be the burst disc that goes but the body itself and you could easily end up wiht a part of the body or the burst disc body ricocheting around the room or embedded in your body. 3000 psi is not something to be trifled with.

                          If it was on the other side I may be inclined to look at it but that's still a big IF. It's just best to buy a new body for the guts to go into or a whole new reg.

                          where is your sense of adventure

                          yeah it is the HP side, and buying new would be the sane thing to do, but if we all did things the sane way the news would have nothing to report on i seriously dont see it weakening the housing much by just rethreading it to the next size. ill just fill this badboy in a steel box. i dont know for sure that im gonna try it but its a thought that ive been kicking around
                          2k2 Angel LCD
                          turbo trigger
                          CP volumizer
                          PIPE KIT

                          2k Angel CnC LCD
                          Vert Frame
                          Freak Barrel

                          B2k x-milled
                          micro rock
                          Dye sticky 3's
                          vertical max-flo
                          Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

                          Egg 2 y board
                          Empire Reloader
                          Dye Throttle 91/4500
                          Crossfire 114ci/3000
                          Angel Air Reg

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                          • Sumthinwicked
                            team id psycho AO-CT
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4292

                            #14
                            u could helocoil it maybe back to its threads might be worth looking into

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