..want to mill and tap another feed port...

[malJohann]

Right. I want to mill and tap another feed port on the left-hand side of my vertical feed Tac-One body, then make an Angel threaded plug which would be swopped between the vert and left feed port depending on which one I want to use.

What problems can I expect to encounter?

Is there enough meat in there to do this?

Are warp bodies angled toward the bottom, or does the feed neck go out at a 90 degree angle?

Any reason why this has not been tried or done before?

Any specific reason why the ball detents are always at a 90 degree angle from where the paintballs are being fed?

What mods would I need to do to my winged rail for it to work together?

Last question, can anyone e-mail me a SolidWorks file of a vert Tac-One body? A file of any other body of the same size would also do, then I'll just add in the Tac-One mods to it and provide it back to any AO members that want to use it.

[malJohann]

Anyone?

[p8ntbal4me]

Right. I want to mill and tap another feed port on the left-hand side of my vertical feed Tac-One body, then make an Angel threaded plug which would be swopped between the vert and left feed port depending on which one I want to use.

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What problems can I expect to encounter?

One problem I can see is the ball rolling into the side feed breach section when your using the vertical one. There is nothing to stop the ball from staying centered in the normal breach.

Is there enough meat in there to do this?

On a ULE/TAC body,.. maybe.

Are warp bodies angled toward the bottom, or does the feed neck go out at a 90 degree angle?

ULE Warp Feed Bodies left or right go 90 degrees outward

[QUOTE=malJohann] Any reason why this has not been tried or done before?

Cost mostly,... and its a custom thing. You could do the same thing with warp feed bodies in about the same amount of time because of the way the rail works.

Any specific reason why the ball detents are always at a 90 degree angle from where the paintballs are being fed?

Im guessing that when you say 90 degrees,.. you mean the detents look like they are in the center of the body. If this thinking is correct,.. then you are seeing it wrong. The detents are slightly forward of center on the breach.

What mods would I need to do to my winged rail for it to work together?

Needs to have a notch cut into it to allow for the feed neck

Last question, can anyone e-mail me a SolidWorks file of a vert Tac-One body? A file of any other body of the same size would also do, then I'll just add in the Tac-One mods to it and provide it back to any AO members that want to use it.

You are going to be hard pressed to find the SW files for the AGD Tac body (unless you know someone that I dont!!!) There are CAD files on here of the ULE body slug,... which has 90% of the information you would need to even start this mod.


Im sure the mod is do-able,... but it looks more like you need to have some other things in order before you try this. I would think of a way to block your "not being used" feed gate/neck before trying to hire someone to do this for you. Just brain storming this looks like you would need a plug made of 6061 that can be fitted into the threading that the feedneck uses and re-shapes the breach to fill the hole.

With that being said,.. sounds like you need to start saving for an X-Mag!!! Cause an X-Mag has a removable breach that does this mod already.

ORRRRRRRR...... you COULD try to get your hands on a 2009 Micro-mag body which has a breach that ROTATES!!!!!!!!!!!

~ P8nt

[malJohann]

One problem I can see is the ball rolling into the side feed breach section when your using the vertical one. There is nothing to stop the ball from staying centered in the normal breach.

In my OP I mentioned I'm going to machine a plug that will fill the hole that's not in use, so no real problem here, since the plug will be shaped such on the inside, that the paintball doesn't roll to the side.

You could do the same thing with warp feed bodies in about the same amount of time because of the way the rail works.

I'm not sure what you mean here? How does the rail work differently? I thought its only shaped differently (yet works the same)?

Im guessing that when you say 90 degrees,.. you mean the detents look like they are in the center of the body. If this thinking is correct,.. then you are seeing it wrong. The detents are slightly forward of center on the breach.

No, what I mean is with vert feed breeches the detent is on the right-hand side of the body, and with warp-left feed breeches the detent is on top of the body, why is this? Is there any reason why a warp-left would not work with the detent on the right-hand side of the body?

Needs to have a notch cut into it to allow for the feed neck

Sounds easy enough. I need my rail because I want to still have the wings with their threaded holes to mount stuff to (like my Q-loader).

There are CAD files on here of the ULE body slug,... which has 90% of the information you would need to even start this mod.

Where? All the links I tried are not working anymore.

With that being said,.. sounds like you need to start saving for an X-Mag!!! Cause an X-Mag has a removable breach that does this mod already.

I would, but I don't have $700-$1200 to drop on anything, much less something that's R&R related.

ORRRRRRRR...... you COULD try to get your hands on a 2009 Micro-mag body which has a breach that ROTATES!!!!!!!!!!!

Could'nt care less for the looks of the 2009 Micro. It's just not my taste, looks too old-fashioned.

[p8ntbal4me]

In my OP I mentioned I'm going to machine a plug that will fill the hole that's not in use, so no real problem here, since the plug will be shaped such on the inside, that the paintball doesn't roll to the side.

I didnt see that part,.. sorry if I missed it before.

I'm not sure what you mean here? How does the rail work differently? I thought its only shaped differently (yet works the same)?

I mean that the time it would take for you to take the hopper off the feed, plug up the port you were using, get the plug out for the other one you want to use, install the feedneck, mount the hopper back on, etc..... thats about the time it takes to remove a vertical body and install a warp body.

I was just making comment about the time to change over one for another. This time would be reduced depending on how far in your R&D goes to make your idea FASTER. Then everything would change for the better.

No, what I mean is with vert feed breeches the detent is on the right-hand side of the body, and with warp-left feed breeches the detent is on top of the body, why is this? Is there any reason why a warp-left would not work with the detent on the right-hand side of the body?

I dont think so. Its probley a money saving thing when machining the body. They probley used the same fixture and line code in/on the CNC for both the right and left warp feed bodies. It would save them setup fixtures, time, and ultimatly money.

Where? All the links I tried are not working anymore.

PM me,.... I have them saved on my HDD. I can also give you an outside link for future use.

I would, but I don't have $700-$1200 to drop on anything, much less something that's R&R related.

ohhhhh c'mon! Everyone has $1,200 to spend on X-Mags!

~ P8nt

[malJohann]

I didnt see that part,.. sorry if I missed it before.

Pro noblem.

I was just making comment about the time to change over one for another.

Oh. Do you think the cost of my project would be more than that of a warp-left Tac body? I'm starting to think it would.

I dont think so. Its probley a money saving thing when machining the body. They probley used the same fixture and line code in/on the CNC for both the right and left warp feed bodies. It would save them setup fixtures, time, and ultimatly money.

I would really have preferred if the detent stayed on the side of the warp bodies.

PM me,.... I have them saved on my HDD. I can also give you an outside link for future use.

PM sent. I'm thinking about designing my own tactical warp mag body that addresses a couple of key issues the original had.

ohhhhh c'mon! Everyone has $1,200 to spend on X-Mags!

Ha! If I had I likely wouldn't be posting this here thread.

[casedawg]

I believe the reason the detent is 90 deg to the ball entry is so that when the ball starts to leave the chamber and rolls over the detent, the spring tension would not ever so slightly try and push the ball back up against the ball stack and reduce feed speed. That's kinda how I look at it. Just a theory, but it makes sense to me And that's all that matters.