Air assisted powerfeeds?

[CSexton]

I may be crazy, but I seem to remember years ago people were tapping their markers to run excess gas through a line into their hopper/powerfeed. As I recall it was primarily Angel and shoebox guys doing this, but I think I saw some mags as well. if anyone remembers how to do this I would appreciate it if you would share the wealth.
Looking forward to seeing some cool stuff,
Chris

[PrimoRocker]

Yeah i thought of doing that, if I ever made a pneumag, but I don't know if the excess air would be enough to really make a difference

Here is the only picure I could find showing the airline running to the feedneck: http://www.docsmachine.com/shocker3.jpg

[ZapTheMad]

Yeah i thought of doing that, if I ever made a pneumag, but I don't know if the excess air would be enough to really make a difference

Here is the only picure I could find showing the airline running to the feedneck: http://www.docsmachine.com/shocker3.jpg

It is definitely not enough.

[PrimoRocker]

It is definitely not enough.

How much would be enough ??

...to get maybe 12 or so bps feed rate?
Any idea how much pressure/volume was vented from the shocker pneumatics, and how fast that effectively cycled?

Added: I believe autocockers used this too at one point, and their pneumatics run, at what, 100psi generally? I could turn up a pneumag to that much, correct?

[ZapTheMad]

The problem is not so much the pressure, it's the volume. The tiny piston in a Pneumag is not enough air to do anything useful other than fire the gun. The little puff of air is barely enough to blow a hair around. It's not going to budge a paintball.

[PrimoRocker]

So what youre saying is that if I add a volume chamber, it would work?
Then I would get poor effieciency, but on the other hand I wouldn't need batteries.

I don't have a pneumag to try this with... yet

[CSexton]

Is there any way to try this with a classic valve, no pneus? I'm working on assembling a "classic" Classic mag, and I think this would definitely qualify if it's feasible. I honestly don't care if it winds up actually improving feedrate, so long as it's functional and doesn't impede air effiency by too much

[splashkitsrock420]

idea?

ive only seen this kinda thing on the old school shoebox shockers it seemed to work pretty well on them but never seen it on a mag tho ....sound s interesting

[boarder2k7]

The air assisted powerfeeds were tapped into excess blowback/firing air from the marker from what I remember.

They work just based off of the fact that they are angled down into the feedneck, helping to blow the ball into the breech. I did it with my 98c off of the response trigger hole with some success.

I can't think of a way to get a line tapped into a mag like that though.

-B

[Tao]

Is there any way to try this with a classic valve, no pneus? I'm working on assembling a "classic" Classic mag, and I think this would definitely qualify if it's feasible. I honestly don't care if it winds up actually improving feedrate, so long as it's functional and doesn't impede air effiency by too much

Classic rt with a valve in an extra air port, with an inteli frame hoked up to the valve

[Ando]

Smart Parts propaganda!!!

That is all.

[p8ntbal4me]

There was a series of high priced Angels that did this,.. pretty sure they were Cobra Angels.

~ P8nt

[Chris]

There was a series of high priced Angels that did this,.. pretty sure they were Cobra Angels.

~ P8nt

Im not sure about Cobra, but Adrenalin did this on their Angels. Shockers were the other guns commonly modded with the air assist.

It's pointless these days, if you are using a force fed hopper though.

[ManInBlack]

My Shocker is set up that way. These things just vent out the side and some engineer decided, hey, we're gonna point that down the elbow! Honestly I don't know if it does anything, but I don't think it could hurt.

[p8ntbal4me]

IAdrenalin did this on their Angels

aHHHH yeah,.. thats who I was thinking about. Good Call!

~ P8nt