Anyone ever build a pneumatic safety?

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  • Spiritchaser
    Registered User
    • Feb 2013
    • 112

    #1

    Anyone ever build a pneumatic safety?

    So I once posted about potential problems with a mechanical safety on a pneumag. Now that I've tuned my trigger to where I like it, I'm finding there's so little travel at the safety I just can't have faith in it.

    The on off ASA does work of course, and I'm going to run with that for now...

    but before I get parts anno'd, I want to at least consider other options.

    Has anyone ever tried to put a (edit) two position valve on a pneumatic trigger circuit?

    Vent the ram in one position, connect the ram to the trigger valve in the other.

    I have to think that around here someone would have at least tinkered...

    Any thoughts would be appreciated
    Last edited by Spiritchaser; 07-27-2014, 06:07 PM.
  • yellowmitten
    Rock'n out with my mag out
    • Jul 2010
    • 281

    #2
    My normal safety has always worked. butttttt somehting like this might work for you http://www.argyleloco.com.au/images/alw219.jpg
    Last edited by yellowmitten; 07-27-2014, 06:08 PM.

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    • Spiritchaser
      Registered User
      • Feb 2013
      • 112

      #3
      My trigger has about 0.008" of travel at the bottom tip.

      It's possible to see the safety tab move

      But...

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      • Cyco-Dude

        #4
        i wonder if it would be better to mod the frame to have a safety like the emags / hyperframes? the safety on those don't stop the trigger, they actually stop the sear.

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #5
          You need to set it up a little differently. You can make the safety work,but you will have to change the trigger actuating rod a bit.

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          • Frizzle Fry
            AO Micromag Guy
            • Mar 2009
            • 3280

            #6
            Maybe a trigger stop to adjust forward movement, and a slightly shorter pin?

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            • Spiritchaser
              Registered User
              • Feb 2013
              • 112

              #7
              First off thanks for all the replies

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              • Spiritchaser
                Registered User
                • Feb 2013
                • 112

                #8
                Originally posted by BigEvil
                You need to set it up a little differently. You can make the safety work,but you will have to change the trigger actuating rod a bit.
                I currently have the rod set to just a little beyond the release point of the marker, I could minimize over travel a wee bit more but I want to have a little room for wear.

                That being said, post travel doesn't really make much difference with a safety.

                The forward travel set screw can be backed off of course, and this can increase trigger swing to almost anything...

                But I've tuned this trigger to where it's just about perfect for me, and I'd rather do more work than give that up

                Plus I can out shoot my wife on her mini and I'd like to keep it that way.

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                • RT Lover
                  nothing special
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 789

                  #9
                  i think the emag safety is the way to roll.... proven system that works and u arent making any risks with it!
                  Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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                  • need4reebs
                    OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1441

                    #10
                    wat trieer frame are you using? any pics of the current set-up?
                    http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...8715822556.gif

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                    • Spiritchaser
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 112

                      #11
                      Originally posted by need4reebs
                      wat trieer frame are you using? any pics of the current set-up?
                      Heh, it's actually the airwalk you helped me find a year and a half ago

                      Though it has changed a bit since then
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                      • need4reebs
                        OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1441

                        #12
                        use a longer trigger rod and then re-adjust the trigger stops.

                        has it been a year and a half already?
                        http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...8715822556.gif

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                        • Spiritchaser
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 112

                          #13
                          It's been a while

                          I can change the rod to reposition the safety tab or (more likely) file it to where I want it, but there is very little motion at all at the tab with such minimal trigger pull

                          On Friday I'm going to play around increasing the pre travel until it feels slow and see if maybe I can make it work

                          The trigger is a home built, I plan on making it work. I'd much rather file it, and keep the trigger right at the back of the trigger area for more room.

                          The trigger rod is delrin, and very easy to work with, but I don't think that on its own can do what I need

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                          • need4reebs
                            OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1441

                            #14
                            will the safety work/fit if tha top trigger stop isn't screwed in so much or at all?
                            http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...8715822556.gif

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                            • Spiritchaser
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 112

                              #15
                              Absolutely, but I lose the magical trigger, or perhaps just some measure of it.

                              I'm going to look into the emag style safety. In principle it looks perfect, but given where the ram is, I'm not sure where it could fit here.
                              I've poked a bit Into those detented switches, but given space constraints, compromise may be unavoidable.

                              Or I fill the hole with something and continue to use the on off.

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