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  • ScatterPlot
    Not pop, it's all Coke
    • Jan 2002
    • 1960

    #1

    Jumping shoes

    OK Lemme start from the beginning.
    I was looking on Ebay the other day for some penumatic cylinders to use on a project of mine when I came across a lot of 3 3"bore x 10" stroke pneumatic cylinders (basically just big ole' honkin cylinders, as we sometimes say here in the south ). So I start trying to figure out a way to justify buying these (they were only like $20 for all 3, shipped) so I eventually come up with the idea to make jumping shoes. Yes, jumping shoes. Ever played Pilotwings 64? There was a secret mode called Jumblehopper or something that I think is similar to what I want to do, I dunno cause I could never make it that far. But anyway at first I thought about simply using the cylinders as they are, pushing against the ground. However that turned out to need something like 25 CFM to get the velocity required, so I can't go that route. I finally thought up an idea to make the travel smaller and use a higher pressure, basically extend a sloped thingy to propel me forewards. The trigger mechanism would be installed inside some truck coil springs to give somewhat of a bounce to the step down, and to protect the valve, which would activate once the spring compressed past it. So I came up with a little pic here, made it in good old fashioned MS Paint, cause it's the quickest and I'm lazy .
    I know that AO is really good about collective thinking. That prototype PB marker troubleshooting thread is like 6 pages, so I know with our combined efforts I can jump around and all. I wanna use this thread from start to finish of these so I can document it and get ideas from other people, if I decide to do it that is.
    My goals are these:
    Keep the costs low- I am a lowly college student and cannot afford big fancy things.
    Jump about 5 feet forewards and 3 upwards or so, something in that range. Getting a short jog would be cool.

    The air supply would go in a back-mounted unit of some kind. I thought about some paintball cylinders for their ease of use and availibility, but they're a pain to refill all the time, are costly, and I'm not sure if they can get the flow rate required. I don't really know what to use at this point.
    With the boot part in this pic, I don't know exactly I should attach them to my legs, so I left it open for a spot just to stand in.

    Oh yeah, one more thing. After I got done with the pic I realized it was pretty out of proportion, but it gets the idea across.
    So, guys, will it work? The only way you can convince me to stop trying is to prove pretty good it can't work (safety's not too high on my list of priorities).
    So let me know what you think.
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  • ZSigErik
    Semper Fi
    • Dec 2001
    • 829

    #2
    Didnt they use something like this for the "Anti-Gravty Circus" that p-diddy used for the VMA's?
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    • undescriptive
      Battered and Bruised
      • Apr 2004
      • 279

      #3
      with the hinge @ that position you would be jumping backwards?

      if the piston was at a 45* angle from the toe to heel, it might be a bit better?
      and as a better design......


      think of leaf springs on a van

      they are arced downwards, now, if you take some spring steel and mirror the arc so it looks like a squashed circle (the sharp points would be hinges), you could mount the cylinder just behind your heel and mount it with a roller that runs down the inside of the bottom arc...

      that should give you enough explosive vertical force to jump and you havea nice cushioned landing you may have to put a spring in the middle to help with the landing compression, but nothing that would hinder your weight being on the arcs

      if that didn't make any sense, I'll make a diagram
      Last edited by undescriptive; 09-24-2004, 02:54 AM.

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      • oldsoldier
        just choke yourself out!!!
        • Feb 2002
        • 2459

        #4
        How about your damned thighs?!?!?! I cant imagine jumping too long...your legs would get beat up too much
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        • undescriptive
          Battered and Bruised
          • Apr 2004
          • 279

          #5
          here ya go...
          it's vastly exagerated.. but you'll get the idea

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          • DiSoRdeR
            Pump enthusiast
            • Jul 2003
            • 1767

            #6
            Was looking on google, and look what I found:

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            • undescriptive
              Battered and Bruised
              • Apr 2004
              • 279

              #7
              Damn!

              I didn't know about them....

              how come I just invented them

              though these ones would be power assisted!!

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              • bertmcmahan
                Not pop, it's all Coke
                • Jan 2002
                • 1960

                #8
                Yeah man, we need power assist! Yeah I thought about that, they would need to be reversed to jump right. I don't think the power compression thing would work, cause that would only give you like 1 jump and a pretty slow recharge to "cock" that all the way back. Anyway it kinda reminds me of the things in Mario Bros. movie.
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                • undescriptive
                  Battered and Bruised
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 279

                  #9
                  OK looking @ the ones found on google....

                  they have a "power band"....

                  this leads me to think....

                  if that band was there, but made of extra tough stuff and the cylinder went from front to back accross that band it would "flatten" the leaf springs, then fire you upwards when the pressure was released

                  bigger arcs = more jump, yes reharge would be slow, but you could jump a long way or very high

                  just think of what "hopper poppers" used to do (the little rubber things you turned inside out and put on a solid surface) we could be talking about 7-8 feet of vertical jumping here

                  could be very fun and very dangerous

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                  • sgt_easton
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 134

                    #10
                    So, what happens after you jump "really" high? How do you land without breaking a leg?
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                    • undescriptive
                      Battered and Bruised
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 279

                      #11
                      the semi circles are springs, they would flatten out (also aiding the ram) and allow you to jump again (if you wished and removed the gas pressure

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                      • bigfootimp
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 48

                        #12
                        Just making a recommendation but if you are considering jumping in these things i would recomend putting the hydraulic cylinders on the outside of the shoe. I'm not sure how big these things are but when you jump and land your legs are gonna bend and if you bend far enough you could hit the hydaulic cylinder and seriously hurt yourself. Putting them on the outside of the shoe will keep them out of the way of your bending legs and keep you jumping with less chance of breaking a leg.

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                        • Mardi
                          Team Vivid
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 12

                          #13
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                          • 68automagpwnr
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 138

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mardi
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                            LMAO!!! yes finally!
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                            • daviselk
                              Rush Is #1
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 246

                              #15
                              They made some awesome ones on some show.... Man Vs. Machine. like a boot with a metal curved peice of metal, so it acted like 1 coil of a spring. very effective.

                              my email and AIM name are the same as this, Hit me up sometime
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