Got An IDEA about new gun design, want to hear your opinions : )

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  • gnrlbzik
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 10

    #16
    thats what i will do as soon as i am done with projects at work. right now i get off late at night, so cant visit them any way. but thanks : )

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    • SpedApple
      Guess whos back
      • Oct 2004
      • 43

      #17
      not to rain oon your parade but i see a huge problem with the weight of paintballs+whateverelse is in that shroud cartridgesystem. Its Pretty Bulky and would make the gun very front heavy. What kind of gun is it using or are u gonna design one.
      Loader speed doesnt need to reaally be high does it? Ur using a single trigger and that thing in the back wont let me decide how to grip the gun. heres an idea. Either go response trigger type thing or 2X trigger becasue this a speed sport sun. Or u may want a electric F/A single trig. Anyway thats my 2 cense on this. Dont hate me for being uhhhhhhhhhhh errr a moron. but id love to hear more about it do tell.

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      • gnrlbzik
        Registered User
        • Feb 2005
        • 10

        #18

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        • SpedApple
          Guess whos back
          • Oct 2004
          • 43

          #19
          i see. By cheapest materials ur not goin with like thin plastics are you?

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          • gnrlbzik
            Registered User
            • Feb 2005
            • 10

            #20
            outercage will not be made of plastic, i think thin aluminum with ribed walls will work, we will see, i did some modification to image, fixing things like shortening the length of cartridge to make proportions of the gun beter as i intended long time ago but had time till the other day, got one more thing to finish and i can start on 3D modeling, then autocad.

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            • chaunce
              Registered User
              • Aug 2004
              • 10

              #21
              Thats a lot of parts to get injection molded.

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              • chaunce
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 10

                #22
                I think that you are going to have a really hard time fitting 190 balls into that shroud, the q-loader is that size if not bigger and it only holds 100 rounds and you are wanting to put 90 more than that plus a barrel in the middle of it.

                How are you going to get the balls to feed in to the marker withoug copying the q-loader tecnology of the helical drive? sorry if you already explainded that.

                I think that the gun looks cool and to me the weight disturbution is not a problem, it will be relitavely ballanced, but I can for see there being some pretty complicated problems getting the feed system working and getting the marker to final production. I am not trying to burst your bubble, these are the types of things that have to be answered and spoken if a design is going to be good. If your design is going to be one that is worth doing, than it will have to withstand some touff questions.

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                • SlartyBartFast
                  The Flying Scotsman
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 2940

                  #23
                  Originally posted by gnrlbzik
                  fixing things like shortening the length of cartridge to make proportions of the gun beter
                  Hence my scepticism.

                  You CANNOT just shorten the cartridge for sake of proportion. The cartridge is whatever size is required to hold your feed system and claimed 190 ball capacity.

                  Without proof of a working prototype I have to say your design process is all backwards and misguided. First you make it work, THEN you make it pretty.

                  And aluminum cartridges? Doubt you'll be able to make that affordable...

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                  • chaunce
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 10

                    #24
                    Anything with a helical drive in it is going to infrenge on the q-loader's patent. Good luck.

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                    • gnrlbzik
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 10

                      #25

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                      • "the FitZ"
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 171

                        #26
                        Just do it...
                        Shocker=spyder that shoots out it's butt

                        -Minimag w/ lvl10 and ult
                        black ule body
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                        12" dye ultralite

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                        • TeeJay11
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 9

                          #27
                          Originally posted by the FitZ
                          Just do it...
                          I agree. stop talking about it, becausee nobody can understand you(are you chinese), or how it works. I would like to know how you plan on getting the "190" balls from the catridge into the gun, is it spring loaded or something?

                          and from experience in woodsball, lots of times people stick there barrel out and shoot at somebody else, and all you can see is their barrel, and you sit there going "man i wish that barrel was fatter and i could shoot it" the big cartridge seems like it would make for a darn good target.

                          And the main gun looks like an A-5, and how do you hold it with that thing on the back of the trigger frame?

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                          • ICP
                            Who needs two tubes??
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 424

                            #28
                            It appears that the "thing" on the back of the frame is very similar to a thumb hole stock like on a AK-47 and other rifles. Very comfy and controlable. But I do have to agree, I don't see any way to get 190 balls to feed, without using some sort of helical spring tension, similar to the Qloader. Wich by the way is approximatly 16" long and holds 100 rnds. I suppose you could make it fatter, but that would just be huge IMO. And with the barrel going down the center, it is even almost impossible to use a helical spring, so I'm lost as how you are feeding this beast. But, never the less, good luck, and I like the way it looks. and the theory is nice too.

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                            • Hybrid
                              paintballaholic
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 31

                              #29
                              i think if i saw someone walk onto a field with that, id tag myself out when i see him coming for me with it, lol.

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                              • kurama
                                Registered User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 189

                                #30
                                Guys, quit flaming. He made an illustration to get opinions on it. Most markers begin with somebody sketching it out on paper, and not as much an internal design. And the internals are being worked on, as said before. Meh!

                                It looks very scenario

                                Whats the thing at the bottom near the tank? Its like a drop without the "drop" part to it..

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