Linking two Warps, electronic help needed

[Jazkal]

I need help with the Warp Feed Electronics.

I have two warps that I am trying to link in the following way:

Warp Feed 1 (WF1) is Intelifeed from the marker, So it works as normal. I need to find a way to link WF1 to send an Intelifeed signal to WF2.

I want to run WF2 at 18v (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149979).

Any Ideas for getting a good signal from WF1's board?

[master_alexander]

create an 18v battery pack and mount it on your gun, put one warp on one side and the other on the other. now take the intellifeed wires and make it so it is like a headphone jack (male) and find a splitter (so that you have 2 converted into one) and use the rest as a regular intellifeed hookup.


you will also have to extend your wires to do the battery pack mod.

i did this on my friends contraption(2 markers in one basically)
and it worked pretty good.


hope this helps


~alex

[ScatterPlot]

Why not just use the same switch to do both warps at the same time?
You could use some transistors and stuff, I guess I could figure something out like that if you REALLY wanted to, but I would think you could use the same wires.

Or you could tap into the motor wires for warp 1 and have them send a signal to warp 2. Just make sure the jumpers are right.

[trains are bad]

tap into the motor wires of warp one, run them to a relay, have said rely switch 18v on directly in warp two......why use 2 boards?

[Jazkal]

master_alexander and ScatterPlot, thanks for replying, my fault for not explaining better.
I guess I shouldn't have said: "I need to find a way to link WF1 to send an Intelifeed signal to WF2".

Because WF2 isn't going to have a board really. I really just want to find a way to send a signal to WF2 that whenever WF1's motor is running, WF2's motor is running.


TRB:
That's the problem, I don't want to use two boards. WF2 is going to be 18v's (can't use a board with 18v's). WF1 will be run on 12v's so I can use the board. I want to utilize the dwell from WF1 so that WF2 feeds correctly.

I'm good enough at following a circuit plan, but not creating my own. What kind of relay? Is this something I can pick up at RadioShack, or do I need to order from someone like DigiKey online?

[trains are bad]

There are lots of different relays, but the relay I was talking about has two inputs that you hook up to current (like the motor wires), and two prongs that you hook up to whatever you need switched (you would hook these in the loop between your batteries and warp motor). When Prongs A get current, the connection is closed between prongs B. If you do it that way warp 2 will run at all times warp 1 is running, minus any delay from the relay which is not significant.

I'm running the pulse output of my predator board to a radioshack relay and runnig my warp on the setting for a switch. That way it is simple to wire up a remote warp priming button.

[ScatterPlot]

I would do some research and figure out how to use some transistors. That would be immensely faster and longer lasting, and will not take as much power to use. Of course the speed might not be an issue since there will be a delay and all, but I would definately at least try transistors. (They're like relays, but solid-state; i.e. no moving parts)

[Jazkal]

I'm looking into transistors, just have to figure out what ratings I need.

[ScatterPlot]

Cool. Post whatever you find/decide to use, I'd like to see.

[Lurker27]

Run both motors at 18v off a relay/transistor...regulate down to a board with a 12v to power said relay.

[Jazkal]

So far, here is what I've come up with.

I am going to tap into the lines (power) going to the warp motor on WF1 (on the marker). This will go to a transistor (through a 5v regulator, requirements of most of the transistors I've found) that will send 18v of power to the WF2 motor.

I still have to find a good transistor, looking at all the stats gives me headaches.

Run both motors at 18v off a relay/transistor...regulate down to a board with a 12v to power said relay.

I haven't had my manditory 2 cups of coffee yet, So I don't follow what you mean. Could you expand?

[ScatterPlot]

Now when you said voltage regulator, you are planning on running that in parallell correct? You might be able to just get away with a resistor, but someone with more experience would have to tell you what would work best.

[Jazkal]

I'm not sure what I'm going to use. But I will look into resistors. I am not very good at designing circuits, but I can work my way through it. I have a few books, and Google is always nice.

Once I have my complete circuit designed, I plan on posting it here for review.

[Lurker27]

I mean run both off one relay.

Control the relay with one board.

Power the motrors with 18v, and use that same 18v, through a regulator, to power the board.

[Jazkal]

I give that some testing. My first thoughts are that the Warp on the marker is going to be feeding faster than the balls being feed into it. But I will still try it out, thanks for the idea.