Selinoids

[DGBaller]

Is there any advantage using an airselinoid over a magnetic selinoid or vice verca?

P.S.- I cant spell.

[ojhspyro89]

Im confused what you are saying. I thought all noids where the same. The solenoid is just an electro magnet which pulls a core which is a valve from what i know.


Ps: Your right *solenoid*

[Duck Hunt]

You're compairing apples to orangers.

The EBLADE uses an AIR SOLENOID to control airways to run a RAM back and forth.

The EBLADE uses a magnetic solenoid to trip the SEAR inside the grip frame.


2 toooooootally different applications.

Sean

[DGBaller]

OOO, sorry. Thanks for clearing that up.

[shatter_storm]

Is there any advantage using an airselinoid over a magnetic selinoid or vice verca?

P.S.- I cant spell.

Pneumatic solenoids (intimidator, eblade recocking solenoid - the front one, most other mid/high level electronic markers) route air to act upon a ram, which can produce some pretty impressive power over a long stroke.

Mechanical solenoids (e-spyders, emag, eblade sear solenoid - the rear one) push or pull on a rod running through the middle of them. They're cheap, smaller, and require less design work to function, but they produce less force over long strokes.

[DGBaller]

Alright, I am kinda dumb and this might sound like a dumb question seeing how you just explained it to me, but if you were to go about doing the emag conversion which one would you use?

Another possibly dumb question but does dwell control how long the solenoid is open?

Thanks guys.

[Duck Hunt]

You can use either. The EMAG and XMAG both use MAGNETIC solenoids, pull type. You can go that way, or you can go the way Trains are Bad did and use an air solenoid and ram. Its up to you.

Sean

[txaggie08]

i would do the pneumatic solenoid system. its a smaller more power effecient solenoid, and that little ram seems to be able to exert alot more force than the big one you need for a sear tripper. just what ive come to the conclusion of

[DGBaller]

So basically the air solenoid pushes the ram and then the ram pushes the sear and The magnetic solenoid directly pushes the sear? If I am right then it seems more sensible to use the magnetic solenoid because it connects directly to the sear and there is nothing after that.

[DGBaller]

Sorry if I am bugging you guys with all these questions. Anyway how does air enter the ram in the air solenoid set up. Does it flow through the selenoid.?

[shatter_storm]

Correct. The air (low pressure, 50 to 150 psi from a LPR) flows through the solenoid and is turned on or off to the pneumatic ram/cylinder. When it's got air going to it, the ram extends.