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[ScatterPlot]

New thing I found that may interest you guys. It's a super miniature regulator. Ranges from about 1/2 PSI to 20 PSI, which isn't exactly a huge number, but it's a start.

http://globalspec.com/featuredproducts/detail?exhibitId=15611&fromSpotlight=1&fromSupplier=0

Thought one of these would come in useful in a pneumatic frame. Any idea on how we might run one off only 20 psi? You'd need a pretty big cylinder for this, but hey maybe someone can mod one of these to go higher. Discuss away!

[PumpPlayer]

I don't know of any markers on the market right now where this would be terribly useful. The issue there is either than the output is too low or that the size isn't of much benefit. For moving air, a simple set screw-adjusted orifice is often enough for good low-pressure 'regulation'. Pilot air, for example, in a pneumatic frame. (assuming you're using a single input pressure with no external reg.)

This would be useful on low-flow air. Maybe spring air for an adjustable weight trigger? I wouldn't be able to justify the use of this product simply as an effort to incorporate it into a paintball marker. Could it be done? Sure, but I don't see the specific benefit of using this regulator as opposed to a less expensive alternative. But that's just my opinion.

Just because you can get neat parts doesn't mean you need to use them. Often, the simplest approach is best. Though my respect to the manufacturing company - that's a great product!

[ScatterPlot]

If you happened to have been following Phish's thread, I brought up an idea there of containing every part of a pneumatic frame within a grip frame. Most regs can't fit well enough in there; this one's tiny enough to go in pretty much anywhere.

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By the way, does anyone know what the force required to cycle an Xvalve is at the very end of the sear arm? Well through that hole, close enough to the end . Measurements with or without a ULT would be very helpful...

[SlartyBartFast]

But what's the maximum INPUT pressure on that thing?

And, what's the flow rate?

Probably too low to be of any use.

[ScatterPlot]

Read somewhere that it's pretty high, like 300-400 maybe? I cant find it on their website yet, although I had it a second ago I think.

Edit: Found something. It's got a 500 PSI input pressure

http://www.beswick.com/news.htm?Phase=View&NIID=15

[Bossman]

That's still not high enough, Bottles put out at least 800 psi. You would have to knock the pressure down with an LPR, then feed it into this. I'd just stick with the micro rock.

[phishphen]

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yea, what Bossman said.....the reg needs to be able to handle at least 900psi input.....but dont be discouraged....like you said...its DEFINETLY a start........

[trains are bad]

how high flow is it, and how can I get one? threaded for hose barbs?

I have a killer app that's been sitting in the back of my brain for a long time waiting to find a mini reg.

[ScatterPlot]

I dunno how to get one of these guys. Emailing the company might get you some results.

As for the pressure problem- I was thinking about tapping into the dump chamber, using the mag's availible reg

[SlartyBartFast]

As for the pressure problem- I was thinking about tapping into the dump chamber, using the mag's availible reg

With a check valve and a small reservoir, that MIGHT work.

But, then you have to be certain about the flow rate of the micro regulator.

Also, that company seems to be more of a custom engineering shop. Might make one up to the correct spec if approached.

If you were to test this reg, I'd recommend first using a setup with a micro-rock before hacking into your AGD AIR valve.

[ScatterPlot]

What would the check valve and reservoir be for?

[SlartyBartFast]

What would the check valve and reservoir be for?

Probably not needed, but I had thought it would be good to have a reserve of regulated air for the mechanism. Otherwise, I'm not sure what effect the depressurisation of the trigger mechanism when the marker fires would be.

Probably only a check valve would be required to ensure that it's the trigger release that controls the venting/depressurisation of the trigger mechanism.

[ScatterPlot]

Oh, I gotcha. I thought you meant a reservoir on the HP end of things, got kinda confused