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  • bigfootimp
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 48

    #16
    You also should take into consideration the fact that you are forcing a relatively large amount of air into a small hole with a tube connected. The heat created will cause the air to expand, and the cilender that the air is in would have to be pressure tested as well to make sure that it can withstand the expansions of the gases.

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    • ToTalChaos
      Old School since '86
      • Sep 2003
      • 24

      #17
      What would be nice is if someone would build and sell one to us..
      I could use one.

      There has been one for sell on ebay for around 450, I'm half tempted to get one.
      But i would fell better buying one from AGD or simular..
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      • AGDlover
        And boom goes the dynamite
        • Aug 2003
        • 3322

        #18
        with the heating thing what about running a water line along the side or middle to keep it cool like they do with four wheelers
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        • Aleis
          Registered User
          • Feb 2004
          • 116

          #19
          Few quick facts and Warnings, I guess this makes a Hypicritical post since i'll be helping you do this and telling you dear god stop before you start.

          Typicaly i'm all for inventive thinking and new ideas this is just not something "just anybody" should get into.

          #1. and most important as a Ref at a field that actualy understands teh forces and under workings of Paintball equipment it really is a very scary sport we play, with the lack of common sense some players show. For Example a that neat little tank with a "messly" 3K PSI you hold under your arm is Bomb if the air decided it didn't like staying there, And remove half of your chest with it.
          Kock the Valve off a full tank and it can very easily go through a brick wall after leaving a hole in your friend. So yes Hydro dates are important and no it's not ok if your tank only unscrews from the valve when it's empty. (And yes thats a quote)

          Thats teh Dear god stop this before you kill yourself part,

          #2 the factoid part of this post, after watching the compressor tech work on our compressor when it went down got a quick peack into the insides of one, Iin a 4 stage scuba compressor the final stage is the diameter of about a pencil, and that thing is powered by a direct connection to the Electric grid, so Persepective, fill 68 Cubic Inches by pushing maybe 3-4 cubic inches each time. and Remember what PSI stands for (Pounds per square inch), so if you had a 1 square inch piston it would take 3 thousands pounds of force to add anymore preasure to the system,

          So you go for, and it i'll spend the 4 bucks and get it filled somewhere taht knows what there doing.

          #3 For the hydrsulics part, yes you can get hydraulic rams taht could push forces strong enough to make it more realistic, A jack that can lift 15 tons is fairly common in some industres and it's not all that big either (only weigh in with probably 100lbs of near solid Steel), and they make bigger ones. However Hydaulic rams of this strength are slow, you might get it to cycle out and back in 40-60 sec.


          #4 or you could save yourself.............And us the pain of hearing stories of unfortuante paintbal realted Disaters and just go get Professonaly built Safty inspected, Real compressor..
          Last edited by Aleis; 06-11-2005, 10:36 PM.
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          • ScatterPlot
            Not pop, it's all Coke
            • Jan 2002
            • 1960

            #20
            Well I was actually thinking about making one out of some lawnmower and weedeater engines I have sitting around, but am not at all sure what the pressures get to inside there. I would think it could handle the pressures, but I'm just plain not sure. Anybody know how much the heads of some weedeaters and lawnmowers can take?
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            • billybob_81067
              A.O.'s official Redneck
              • Jan 2001
              • 1682

              #21
              Great minds think alike!

              Can you say REPOST!!! (just kidding)

              LOL... I thought of basically the same thing a couple of years ago and posted THIS thread. I kind of got out of paintball and never pursued it any farther. Maybe there's some links or ideas there to help you out.

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              • ScatterPlot
                Not pop, it's all Coke
                • Jan 2002
                • 1960

                #22
                You know I kinda think I might remember that thread, or one like it. Ever get anything done on it?
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                • billybob_81067
                  A.O.'s official Redneck
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 1682

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ScatterPlot
                  Ever get anything done on it?
                  Nope... never really pursued it, it was just an idea floating around in my head at the time. Soon afterwards though we started farming an additional 425 acres of land and I ran out of time for paintball.

                  Maybe someday after my billion and one current projects are done!
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                  • billab0ng98
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 71

                    #24
                    Already Been done........http://www.nitroduck.com/powerboosterVR.htm
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                    • ScatterPlot
                      Not pop, it's all Coke
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 1960

                      #25
                      We know- the point was to make one, not buy one
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                      • SlartyBartFast
                        The Flying Scotsman
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 2940

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ScatterPlot
                        We know- the point was to make one, not buy one
                        Anyone know the costs of a booster and the required tanks?

                        It's probably pretty stupid buying through Nitroduck IMO. Find a local Haskel representative instead.

                        In the case of the proposed Nitroduck system, you'd require a good shop compressor, 3000psi storage tanks, and 6000psi storage.

                        What would the total cost be?

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                        • Papabyrd
                          Registered User
                          • May 2004
                          • 17

                          #27
                          This booster looks really tempting to get. Its isn't thousands, and it runs off 100 psi shop air.

                          Has anyone ever seen or used this booster.

                          http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

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                          • SlartyBartFast
                            The Flying Scotsman
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 2940

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Papabyrd
                            This booster looks really tempting to get. Its isn't thousands, and it runs off 100 psi shop air.

                            Has anyone ever seen or used this booster.

                            http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
                            Sounds like a REALLY stupid thing to but to me.

                            NOW THE LEGAL STUFF:

                            Supply-N-Demand, LLC. Has made every attempt to insure that this gas booster has been fully tested, and is totally safe to use for the purpose suggested above. However, we are not a professional testing facility, and it is the buyer's responsibility to make sure that this booster is safe to use in the manner suggested above. We strongly recommend that the buyer has this unit professionally tested prior to its use. By bidding on this gas booster, you relieve Supply-N-Demand, LLC. of any liability associated with any use or misuse of this gas booster.
                            It's probably illegal for them o even sell the thing in many jurisdictions if thy haven't met national and industry standards and regulations.

                            HP gas is DANGEROUS. No need to risk your life on some jury-rigged homebuilt device.

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