Detent Idea.. just read

[MadPSIence]

It's 6:00am and I haven't slept so forgive me if I miss something important but I had a neato idea for an infallible and everlasting detent..

Anyways.. The problems I see with detents are..

1. They wear out
2. They are iffy depending on paint size
3. They can cause breaks in rare cases

Well I had an idea what involves some pneumatics but here goes. What if the detent was not solid, and not on a spring but had movement and was activated by excess gas... or some form of pneumatics. The gas pressurizes behind the detent and pushes it outwards to stop a ball from firing.. when the trigger is pulled that gas is released and the detent becomes free or by some mechanism (probably simple but I'm tired) collapses allowing a ball to pass. The detent would need to be able to cycle as fast as or faster than firing speeds but I think it could work rather well.

Just an idea.

[Maggot6]

Maybe if you attempted drawing this in MS paint and posting. I don't really understand..

[ColdFuzion]

Very good idea, I think. It'll involve an LPR, a 2-way (3-way, maybe), and possibly a QEV. I'll get a MS Paint of the basic idea up soon. Only problem is that if your detent sprung a leak, your tank would leak out quickly.Maybe if a small ram were used to hold the ball in... A ram like Phish's in the Pneumag mod in the place of a detent could work.

-Cold

[Skywalker]

It sounds like a very good idea with a lot of potential, but I think it would be too pricey to make. I doubt people would want to spend a lot of much money on just their detents.

[master_alexander]

It sounds like a very good idea with a lot of potential, but I think it would be too pricey to make. I doubt people would want to spend a lot of much money on just their detents.

i believe that.

now if i was chea and i didn't need a whole lot of parts then it could sell.

[Mole1119]

This seems very similar to the idea of using magnets, basically replacing a spring with some other way of providing the force that is less likely to wear out.

My question is what would the real advantages to being able to turn on and off the force behind the detents provide?

Adding onto your idea, instead of pneumatic detents why not make them electric, place a coil in the detent that could be wired directly to the board. When the coil is receiving power it would form a magnetic field pushing the detents into the breech and when you fire remove the power and let the field collapse. This seems to be quite less complex, removing all the hosing and regulators and qevs and instead just having wires running from the board to the detents. Should reduce cost tremendously and allow for greater control and timing of the detents.

[onedude36]

Seems over complicated, when I could use basically scrap rubber. Also tuning comes into play. I have enough things to tune already. Size is also an issue. I already think detents are too big and obstruct my view of the field( however miniscule).

[Vex]

The plastic detents in my twistlock barrels work perfectly for me!!

Twistlock!!

[bigfootimp]

what about if you could somehow incorporate the detents into the body itself? Kind of like WDP did with the a4 fly. Only if you stick with the pneumatic idea then you would have to have a gasket or seal. Also you wouldn't need a whole lot of pressure for this considering how small the space is...even 40 psi would be pushing your luck.

[trains are bad]

It's not a bad idea, but it would only be worth doing if it was convenient to the design already. IOW it's not worth putting a lot of effort in to retrofit one, but I can see a marker coming out with something like this in the future.

[tony3]

K.I.S.S.


My opinion, detents are almost always fine and if they are bad, slap in the kila detents.

[TDonovan]

Put these pneumatic detents on a pneu-mag with warp feed... You'll have the most complicated setup ever.

I typically don't see people having THAT many problems with detents. Anything else that moves and uses air is just one more thing that can go wrong. Good work being creative, I just think it's a bad idea.

[.devin]

think that might be along the lines of what you're looking for...if it were roughly half the size. who knows, maybe having one giant detent will be all the rage this year?

check it out at http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...asp?sku=MBA-1# for 3$ (canadian) it might be worth checking out.

.devin

[Automaggot68]

It's 6:00am and I haven't slept so forgive me if I miss something important but I had a neato idea for an infallible and everlasting detent..

Anyways.. The problems I see with detents are..

1. They wear out
2. They are iffy depending on paint size
3. They can cause breaks in rare cases

Well I had an idea what involves some pneumatics but here goes. What if the detent was not solid, and not on a spring but had movement and was activated by excess gas... or some form of pneumatics. The gas pressurizes behind the detent and pushes it outwards to stop a ball from firing.. when the trigger is pulled that gas is released and the detent becomes free or by some mechanism (probably simple but I'm tired) collapses allowing a ball to pass. The detent would need to be able to cycle as fast as or faster than firing speeds but I think it could work rather well.

Just an idea.

Keep.
It.
Simple.
Stupid.

That isn't feasable/conventional at all.