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  • papatango72
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 18

    #1

    Warps With EYES

    Is it feasible to trigger the Warp, as is done with the intellifeed set up, using Eyes from a Halo B(or other) in place of a microswitch? Ideally, the eyes would be mounted in the grip frame of a blowback marker, and would read the position of the bolt.

    Qualified answers only please.
  • RazorMonkey
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 289

    #2
    1) Intellifeed is 10x more reliable than any eye... What would posess you to change it to an eye?
    2) How would you read bolt position from a grip frame? To see paint, eyes generally have to be in the breech... Or are you talking about the psychic eyes that are going to be in the next generation Angels?
    2.5) Could you possibly mean trigger position? Even so, why would you replace a surefire thing with something that would only complicate things?

    My main question is simply, "Why?"

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    • papatango72
      Registered User
      • Jul 2005
      • 18

      #3
      Originally posted by papatango72

      Qualified answers only please.

      What part of this did you miss?

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      • Dayspring
        aka- The Day Wang

        • May 2001
        • 9664

        #4
        What part of "Why" did you miss?

        He asked a simple question, just like you did. No reason to be a jerk about it.

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        • Gunitwanksta
          Registered User
          • Jul 2005
          • 8

          #5
          im sure u can tinker around and make something work

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          • papatango72
            Registered User
            • Jul 2005
            • 18

            #6
            Originally posted by Dayspring
            What part of "Why" did you miss?

            He asked a simple question, just like you did. No reason to be a jerk about it.
            -Sorry, you're right, I guess the "qualified answers only PLEASE" was in fine print.


            1) Intellifeed is 10x more reliable than any eye... What would posess you to change it to an eye?

            -Clearance issues, bolt design limitations.


            2) How would you read bolt position from a grip frame? To see paint, eyes generally have to be in the breech... Or are you talking about the psychic eyes that are going to be in the next generation Angels?

            -No, halo eyes, or a similar config. They don't have to "see" paint in this application. Bolts on blowbacks are exposed above the grip, as the mechanical sear has actual contact with solenoid, grip and bolt.

            2.5) Could you possibly mean trigger position?

            -No.

            Even so, why would you replace a surefire thing with something that would only complicate things?

            -Eyes have advantages, just like micro switches; they simply suit the design better, in this instance.


            My main question is simply, "Why?"

            -If you're willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement, I'll tell you.



            Hope I answered your questions. Now, is there anyone who cares to post a founded response, or am I looking in the wrong place?

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            • bleachit
              Conturbo et Ledo
              • May 2003
              • 1410

              #7
              Originally posted by papatango72
              Ideally, the eyes would be mounted in the grip frame of a blowback marker, and would read the position of the bolt.

              Qualified answers only please.
              when you say blowback, I think spyder/clones... if thats what you are referring to, then trying to read the bolt from the gripframe would be next to impossible due to the striker being in the way.
              "Great stories! See everyone, just buy a Sydarm and become a paintball superstar!! "
              AGD

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              • papatango72
                Registered User
                • Jul 2005
                • 18

                #8
                Originally posted by bleachit
                when you say blowback, I think spyder/clones... if thats what you are referring to, then trying to read the bolt from the gripframe would be next to impossible due to the striker being in the way.
                That is not what I'm referring to. With all due respect, I'd like to hear from someone with something to ADD to this, and request that enquiries and comments be refrained.

                Thanks.

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                • bleachit
                  Conturbo et Ledo
                  • May 2003
                  • 1410

                  #9
                  Originally posted by papatango72
                  Is it feasible to trigger the Warp, as is done with the intellifeed set up, using Eyes from a Halo B(or other) in place of a microswitch? Ideally, the eyes would be mounted in the grip frame of a blowback marker, and would read the position of the bolt.

                  Qualified answers only please.

                  Originally posted by bleachit
                  when you say blowback, I think spyder/clones... if thats what you are referring to, then trying to read the bolt from the gripframe would be next to impossible due to the striker being in the way.

                  Originally posted by papatango72
                  That is not what I'm referring to. With all due respect, I'd like to hear from someone with something to ADD to this, and request that enquiries and comments be refrained.

                  Thanks.

                  with all due respect.... you asked a generic question about a "blowback" marker, which can be any of lot of designs... including spyders and clones. with that said, and to answer your question "is it feasible" I responded that it is not, because a clear few of the bolt is not possible. Given your lack of specifics, I would say that my post was rather pertinent.
                  "Great stories! See everyone, just buy a Sydarm and become a paintball superstar!! "
                  AGD

                  "i just sent out the full force of the canadian army (4 guys). expect high canadian casualties"
                  Blackweenie

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                  • theshades
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 9

                    #10
                    You could possibly make a device that would add eyes to your warp and plug it into the intelifeed port to trigger. You would need a simple beam break circuit that sends a pos or neg pulse to the warp thru the intelifeed port. It would take one or two transistors a resistor or two and a ir led and transistor.
                    I personally have my revy and warp running off of my gun battery and had the intelifeed wired. Well... one day I lost/broke my ground lead and the gound fed thru the intelifeed wire and POOF! there went my Emag board! Long Story short . No more intelifeed for me.
                    So an alternate sensor would be nice.

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                    • Aleis
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 116

                      #11
                      Is it possible? yes
                      is it Feasable? Depends how much you really want it.

                      Basicly you will have to make a circuit board that runs the eyes then allows the current for the Warps Intelefeed port to complete when the trigger is pulled. Find a Some one that took Electronic Engineering in College they could probly design it for you, pretty quick.
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                      • RazorMonkey
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 289

                        #12
                        Missed that up there... Email me the non-disclosure agreement... I'll gladly sign and fax it right back... I'm just curious as to what you're designing... And I finally understand what you're saying And yes, it would work fine...

                        If you were serious about the non-disclosure agreement, my email address is [email protected]

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                        • trains are bad
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1751

                          #13
                          kind of. I have a predator board and the intellifeed feature will trigger the warp if you pull the trigger, even if there is no paintball in the breech. I think if you get one set up for a cocker, it opens the bolt, intellifeeds until it sees a ball, then closes.
                          TRB's feedback

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                          • ah137
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2000
                            • 569

                            #14
                            Well I already beet you to it. What I have set up with my gun is a warp board in my revo. I have modified my software on the emag to may the eye independent of the gun firing. This means the warp will only spin when there is not a ball loaded into the chamber and will stop as soon as this occurs. You could achieve the same thing by using a warp

                            To me this make sense because you only need one eye and where it counts, in the breach not the hopper.


                            Dont believe me.......
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                            Later Andy Hills
                            NVE-mag
                            Certified Airgun Tech.


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                            • MonsterMag
                              Got Emag? I dont...Dm4 :)
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 1093

                              #15
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