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  • AgentSmith
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 26

    #1

    Pistol Idea

    Hi Guys,

    I recently saw a fellow player with a 30Gram tank from RAP4.
    It's a Miniature co2 tank with an ASA thread and an on/off that fits into the stock of the RAP4 rifles. This little 1.5" by 6.5" beauty gave me fifty shots on my vertASA Minimag.
    This started me to thinking, since all my play is pistol primary, I might as well have exactly what I want.
    I put over 15,000 rounds through a cheapo ZeusG2 last year, while my minimag and procarbine collected dust! It started out as a phase, but where I play at Hell Survivors Field in Pinkney, MI, is perfect for pistol play against semis(lots of cover)....

    I thought of just patching a micromag together into a frankenmag with the 30G tank or just getting a Sydarm, but I love the work Ken, a local Airsmith(K&P Customs), does, the Mag's have never worked well with 12g's and I must admit, I hate the look of stacked tubes in the sydarms or the sheridan based strokers.
    I love my P68SC and my Minimag because they shoot so well, but to someone who grew up loving Colt's 1911s, tubes are just plain ugly. I wanted a flat sided gun with a square top.
    The flat top, I know from my zeus helps ease loading in play and rules over the roundtops for that reason.


    So I'm having a pistol Mag made that will be set up like this:



    Essentially the same thing that Pro-Team Products did with the Micromag, except with a ten-round spring fed magazine, body and barrel all made from one piece.

    A. minimag Valve/Reg with guage on side and tapped on top for a reg.

    B. palmer Sideline regulator(inlet at rear).

    C. the milled body/magazine/barrel

    D. Okay I forgot to put the D on there. It was supposed to mark the hardline.

    E. Standard minimag rail.

    F. Forward pointing ASA for the RAP4 30 gram tank. The tank has a 1.5" diameter and will screw in from the direction of the arrow. it will sit under the barrel like a TAC-Light.

    G. standard minimag grip.

    In the foreview that shows the outline I'm looking for, Tube #2 is to be the magazine, tube#1 is to be the barrel.

    The magazine will have a front load, like this zeus magazine:


    The PTP Micromag had an air through rail, but I think the hardline outside will protect the guage from my holster. I holster and unholster alot during games(another strike against the palmer-stroker types, as the LPR and ram take a beating from the holster).

    The Palmer reg will take up what would otherwise be goofy looking empty space and gives me the triple advantage of two regs, better weight distribution and a higher angle on the hardline.

    Please forgive my crude drawing!

    Does anyone have any suggestions or comments? Should I skip the guage on the side? If I did I could turn the regulator around and have it piped out the side(shorter but more vertical).



    Rob 'pistolpacking' Smith
    Last edited by AgentSmith; 12-15-2005, 11:22 AM.
  • etjoyride
    0:-1
    • Mar 2005
    • 2149

    #2
    Looks very cool, the picture kind of looks like a BOX GUN/SUPER STOCKER except its not pump. I would forget the guage on the side, personally it seems like a bit of a waste. Other than that it sounds awesome. Good Luck and pics would be nice when its finsihed.

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    • FinchMan
      LVL10 classic minimag
      • Nov 2004
      • 459

      #3
      looks like a pretty solid design. Just a few things I can suggest.

      Having the hardline and one piece body/barrel pretty much kills any chance of field stripping. So.. Lvl10?

      I don't know how many shots you normally use, but if your gonna be swapping out the tini tanks, howabout having a slide check or something so you don't loose all the pressure when you swap. It may save ya another shot or two... Iunno.


      If you wanted to move the gauge, you might be able to use the palmers Direct stabilizer

      Just replace the male fitting on the top with the gauge. Does that seem like it would work any better?

      You could mount the regulator with the input and output on the sides, so you wouldn't hafta tap another hole in the Mag valve, then just run a hardline down the side to the valve, or maybe even just a couple of elbows with a Quick Disconnect ( problem #1 solved) in between em (if there's enough space for all that - probably not).

      Is there going to be any sighting mechanism? maybe just a bead or standard sight rail or something.
      **Oh yeah, make sure you take lots of pictures too!
      Last edited by FinchMan; 12-22-2005, 01:13 AM.

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      • AgentSmith
        Registered User
        • Oct 2005
        • 26

        #4
        Thanks Guys!
        Finchman, that's a great point on coming out of the sides of the reg instead of straight down into the valve, that will complete what I was hoping for. I wanted to be able to swap the valve back and forth to the normal body fairly easily.

        The hole where the paintball drops down from the magazine tube into firing position will just be drilled straight down through from the top and then plugged with the normal AGD powerfeed plug. I'll be able to turn it to stop the mag from feeding or remove it to run a cable squeegee down the barrel, so I shouldn't need any 'field stripping'.

        I will trim down the handle on the powerfeed plug and have either bases to mount 'iron sights' or have sights milled in. In between the regulator and the hole for the bore drop there will be room for the rear sights and there's room for the front sight because the pusher in the magazine will need some room at the muzzle end.

        I puzzled quite a bit over which reg would work best, the inline(or sideline) are ported in the middle instead of towards the end like the direct, so they match the length of the valve but they are double ported like the direct. I am going to have the body extended to cradle the reg, that will leave room for the platform for the rear sight.

        Thanks again

        Rob

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        • FinchMan
          LVL10 classic minimag
          • Nov 2004
          • 459

          #5
          well

          It sounds like you've got it pretty much figured out then.

          I cant wait to see some pictures.

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