electricity generating paintball gun

[zipity_Bop]

Air is not always free, there are still lots of places that charge per fill, or per all day fill. Hell, I have to drive at least half an hour (one way) to get anything besides CO2. If you started putting contraptions like these onto guns, you would go through so much more air than you do now, that it would either force an increase in price, or just stop being free. It isn't like we are talking a tiny amount of energy, there would be a drastic drop in efficiencies.

first off i think your missing the point the air passes by or through a turbine then into the gun this will allow no waste of air.... I don't see where your argument of wasted air is coming from. If anything it will be slower recharge and i doubt even that would be affected

[going_home]

I Has A Dream>>>

Maybe if we all put our knowledge together we can come up with a way
to pneumatically assist the trigger on a mech mag ?
Hey we could call it a new-mag !
Then we wouldnt need batteries !

[Jaan]

first off i think your missing the point the air passes by or through a turbine then into the gun this will allow no waste of air.... I don't see where your argument of wasted air is coming from. If anything it will be slower recharge and i doubt even that would be affected

You're missing the point.

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

Say it with me again...

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

It takes more energy to make the energy you need. Always. Nothing is 100% efficient. Not even close. Think of it this way; The guy at the paintball store has to plug in his high pressure air compressor to fill your HPA tank. He plugs it into an electrical outlet. That energy has now been transferred from electricity to pressurized air. When you release that pressure from the tank you release some of the energy, and that's what runs the gun and fires the paintball.

Now, you decide you're going to tap into a little bit of that energy source to turn it into electricity again using a turbine or whatever. By the time you're done you would have wasted a lot more energy than if you just bypassed all that crap and simply plugged a rechargeable battery into a wall socket (not directly of course).

At every step energy is wasted...friction, leaks, whatever. Always. When you spin that turbine, or pushing a bolt with a coil built into it (which is what I would do) you're going to be using up energy. Always.

I'll bet you if you took a small electric generator, hooked it up directly to an HPA tank, and just used the HPA tank to run the generator and recharge a 9v battery you wouldn't charge it all the way.

[Dark Ranger]

Hey, why don't you get one of those shake flashlights and wire that in? Disconnect the light and then hook it up to your marker. Then strap the flashlight to your leg so as you run you charge it up. This way you don't rob any of the guns resources.

Actually, I don't know that it would put out enough power, but I thought it sounded cool.

[captian pinky]

that was exactly wat i said only the bolt was doing the work good try though

[hulk]

Pinky may have been poking at this, but just magnetic induction. On the body of the paintball gun provide windings and install a powerful magnet core into the bolt (or permanently magnetize the bolt). When the bolt flies through the coil windings at high velocity it will generate current. You would have to use a diode of sorts to filter the positive and negative current generation into the proper storage devices during the forward and backward bolt motion, respectively. This is because the simple forward/backward motion of the bolt is an equal and opposite charge producing motion. I'm not an Electrical engineer so this sort of thing is beyond me though.

It's like a solenoid in reverse. The amount of current depends on the strength of the magnetic field, the number of coils, and their relative placement. Although, putting an oscillating magnetic bolt on an emag would wreak havoc on a hall sensor. But this would be a cool idea for normal electros.

Check this link ot that i pulled off google - a good visual of what I'm trying to explain:
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/java/faraday2/

well it u put it that way u could make a electro pump, the pump handel would be coils of wire and it would pass over a magnet to make just enough electricity to power one shot. that would be cool. no trigger pull. cool. and the turbine would not work as well as u think. the energy has to come from some were. the gun would be the worst gas hog ever.

[hulk]

i was just thinking, if u coiled wire around the bolt and magnets around it u could have the gun run off of a smaller battery like a AA or AAA or maybe a watch battery.they would work the best with a lvl 10 because ace would use more energy. the AA would start the first shot then the gun would take over from there but u wouldn't even need a battery realy u could shake it or have a handel on the side that primes the elctricty. but then it raises a nother debate. is it electric or mech? because if it has no battery then its runing off body power and air. it would be like a diffrent pump gun. u see what im saying?

[flyingpootang]

Pinky may have been poking at this, but just magnetic induction. On the body of the paintball gun provide windings and install a powerful magnet core into the bolt (or permanently magnetize the bolt). When the bolt flies through the coil windings at high velocity it will generate current. You would have to use a diode of sorts to filter the positive and negative current generation into the proper storage devices during the forward and backward bolt motion, respectively. This is because the simple forward/backward motion of the bolt is an equal and opposite charge producing motion. I'm not an Electrical engineer so this sort of thing is beyond me though.

It's like a solenoid in reverse. The amount of current depends on the strength of the magnetic field, the number of coils, and their relative placement. Although, putting an oscillating magnetic bolt on an emag would wreak havoc on a hall sensor. But this would be a cool idea for normal electros.

Check this link ot that i pulled off google - a good visual of what I'm trying to explain:
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/java/faraday2/

Pneumagger's got a point. When the bolt moves forward it will make a different charge vs moving in reverse all depending on which way the polls are set up. I work with reverse negative regen on traction motors to slow them down. I know that the local subway system draws power from their rail system and on slowing down it regenerates electricity back to the power rail just like Hybrid cars. The only thing it supplies significantly less power back than it takes in "so there is no free lunch".