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  • 73h_0/\/3
    Registered User
    • Dec 2001
    • 4

    #61
    SiN

    whats SiN's new site?

    thanks in advance
    i p\/\/n j00.

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    • 73h_0/\/3
      Registered User
      • Dec 2001
      • 4

      #62
      UP!

      .
      i p\/\/n j00.

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      • mrhooie
        paintball enthusiast
        • Sep 2001
        • 517

        #63

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        • Army
          Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

          • Oct 2000
          • 5785

          #64
          That's the old site. Last time I was in contact with him, he had no concrete plans to get the site up.

          However, I recommend you use RedRider for any powdercoating jobs. I had a very poor experience with SiNs, and was not satisfied with the results or his business accumen.

          RedRider has proven himself to be inexpensive, fast on returns, and quality of work. There are MANY happy RedRider customers on this site who will tell you he is the one to go to!

          [email protected] But give him time to respond, he won't look at his Emails until way late at night.

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          • PigSweat
            Registered User
            • Oct 2001
            • 667

            #65

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            • CoFFeY[NiTrO]
              battle royale
              • Sep 2001
              • 3222

              #66
              Heres somthing to add to that Army,

              I havent seen a complaint about his powdercaoting. I'm not sure if you have, but he is my first choice for getting your gun "colored".

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              • deweasel697
                Registered User
                • May 2001
                • 390

                #67
                According to RedRider he is now a part of sin, SiN will be doing mostly airbrush stuff while red will do the basics.
                MicromagRT
                Automag Classic

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                • Army
                  Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5785

                  #68
                  Coffey, it's not what I "heard", it's what I have in my hands. My gun could have been done by a monkey for all I know, the job is that bad.

                  His site stresses how good and wonderful he is, but I am holding the proof he does not know how to conduct business, nor what quality actually is.

                  The first time I sent my gun in, he passed it off to his associates while he went on vacation. I was never informed of any of this, even though I dealt only with Eric personally. When I got the gun back 2 months later (granted there was some shipping problems that were not of Erics nor my doing, but Customs) it was the infamous crappy metallic pink, NOT what I ordered at all.

                  At his site, check his FAQs: #10 states that it will take 5-10 days for a standard job AFTER payment is recieved. I sent payment out with the first mailing, this means he had my money order for at least two weeks before he got my gun the 2nd time. It was another 22 days until I saw my gun again, with the job poorly done and pink.

                  FAQ #12 asks if paint will get in the barrel. He says no, the barrel internals are masked before coating, and if any gets in it is easily removed. Well, both the 8" and 12" were crusted inside with paint, totally unusable. They would have been ruined had I not had honing equipment at work, where I had to remove their screw up. Granted, the untrained idiots did it without Erics knowledge, but that does not get the business off the hook.

                  SiNs brags that they bead or sand blast your gun to get it down to bare metal ready to take the paint. He also says how the parts are cleaned numerous times to insure a smooth finish. Then he says how all the internals and threaded areas are checked for overspray, then cleaned up, polished and carefully packed for shipping back to the customer. Well, I guess they forgot to do that to my gun, for it had dirt, paint runs, paint in the internals (my trigger would not mount up for all the paint, nor would the sear drop in), and you know about the barrels. Heck, there were even fingerprints embedded in the paint!

                  I contacted Eric as soon as I could (after I cooled off a few days), and he was very apologetic, and explained that he had fired the two guys he hired as they had done many bad jobs. OK, I accepted that, I also accepted his offer to fix my gun and get it exactly the way I wanted, and he would pay the shipping. He assured me that the work he would personally do would make up for all my troubles. I sent him my gun with the admonishment to send back the shipping charges in USD.

                  Now, this was just before Sept.11, so mail traffic was somewhat stalled at the border, but without hearing from him for another month, I emailed him only to have him tell me he was finishing up the "Glory Guns" (M98s) for a charity orginization and he would get to my gun first thing after that. Well, nearly a month later I was pissed and many saw my thread here about that. After corresponding with Eric (and apologising to AO), he assured me it looks super good and he was just doing the final polish and it would be on its way......2 weeks later I finally received my gun.

                  Now the paint was what I asked for, bright red with ghost flames down the barrel and body tube. However, the quality is piss poor. The rail was so gunked up with paint it took me about 2 hours just to get the trigger to swing and the sear to drop in without binding. I had to drill out the safety's tunnel for it to mount in, tap the grip screw holes and the ASA screw holes. After nearly an hour with a hone, I was able to get a barrel to go into the body, another 30 minutes to make it turn and lock. The barrels I had to re-hone, and I'm not sure of their diameter anymore.

                  No, my "story" is not what I have heard, but what I went through with Eric. I will never recommend his service to anyone, and if he wants to get upset at me again like last time, well, go for it. I got screwed by SiNs and Eric Mcbain.

                  (see the paint inside? that was normal throughout)

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                  • Army
                    Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 5785

                    #69
                    See the lumpy paint? This is supposed to be "polished to a brilliant shine?

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                    • Army
                      Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 5785

                      #70
                      Let's not forget the barrels!

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                      • zvanut
                        AO's Favorite Member
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 1817

                        #71
                        Army,
                        what happened to your barrel?
                        Tough Times Wont Last Forever...
                        Tough People Will ~ Darryl Kile R.I.P. 2002

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                        • irbodden
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 3413

                          #72
                          Redrider does some sweet works and he is a really cool guy, he's fast too

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                          • damageinc54
                            Machinist
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 1324

                            #73
                            My God that looks like ooky. It is a sad day when I see this kind of work done. I am a Machinist and I do all kinds of custom work. The hardest part of the job is getting players to trust that you know what you are doing. Work like this hurts all of us. I hope you ripped him a new one Army
                            Last edited by Army; 12-30-2001, 01:10 AM.
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                            • paintballer187
                              PBN Mod
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 1733

                              #74
                              Army--how much did u pay for that?

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                              • 2000Sabre
                                Team AO Nightmare
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 439

                                #75
                                If you want to look into others that do powder coating, I had my RT Pro done by KP Customs. The guys name is Ken Wenlasky. You can contact him at [email protected] This guy knows what he's doing, he did two barrels, my body, body rail, sight rail, and fore grip rail. Everything went together nicely without any problems. Worth a look. Attached is what my RT looks like after it was done.

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