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  • AGD
    The man from AGD

    • Oct 2000
    • 5916

    #1

    Do Pro Teams mean anything to you guys? AGD wants to know...

    All,

    The subject of pro teams or pro paintball never seems to come up in this forum. We were wondering why? All comments welcome.

    Thanks,

    AGD
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  • M-a-s-sDriver
    Alcohol Fueled Brewtality
    • Jun 2001
    • 552

    #2
    Not to be flippant, but what is there to talk about? It seems lately that everybody and his uncle is shooting either an Angel or Cocker on the pro circuit, and since this IS a Mag forum, it just never comes up.

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    • Vil3
      from: Team Prodigy
      • May 2001
      • 300

      #3
      hey M-a-s- thats not all true man we got some pro paintball players out here! Just not many of them. I myself am a amatuer player, i play at tourneys, but i dont see many pros around here... Maybe they just haven't found AO yet?

      AGD- didn't u give e-mags to jacksonville warriors? cuz in magazines it was saying congrats to jacksonville warriers all with e-mags.... Are they even on the Forums?
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      • Drizit
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        • May 2001
        • 943

        #4
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        • magking1971
          Team Fart Factory
          • May 2001
          • 1089

          #5
          Personaly I don't care about pro teams or pro paintball.
          Pro paintball is just not for me I like the laid back local tourneys and rec ball with friends and to meet new people.

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          • zads27
            Student of Life
            • May 2001
            • 565

            #6
            well i'm still playing rookie div, but i'll be moving on up soon, til one day..

            personally i'm not in a hurry to make it to the pros.. don't get me wrong, i want to play with the best out there.. but from what i've seen with some pro teams out there, that just gives the pros a negative vibe in my mind.
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            • lonsch
              Registered User
              • Jan 2001
              • 347

              #7
              it might be that most people here have never seen a pro team or player in person befor hence nothing to talk about.

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              • cphilip
                Former Moderator

                • Jun 2026
                • 16216

                #8
                They don't mean anything to me. They do seem to mean a lot to the younger crowd. I know the kids think tourney is the "thing'" they all dream and should do so. And therefore it sells stuff. I seem to think there was some talk about this before but you made your intentions clear about not getting too heavly involved directly? Am I right? Maybe that has dampened the talk here about it? Anyway... I know my kid dreams about this kind of stuff. i just try to survive and like your equipment and customer service. I'm too practical I to be a good advisor on this subject I guess. I do notice that a lot of older guys like Mags. Maybe that is a good thing? Not as big a market but a steady one...

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                • Army
                  Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5785

                  #9
                  Well, how many AO members are actual, genuine, current rated pro-players? I guess very few to none?

                  Since there is no postings of tourney news, knowledge, tips & tricks, or just friendly banter from any pros here, there just isn't any reason for the rest of us to garner any interest.

                  That's just sad, now that I re-read it

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                  • hitmanng
                    Slayer of Sacred Cows
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 1237

                    #10
                    To be honest I do not follow "Pro" paintball at all. The concept of a paintball pro is alien to me.

                    1. It is not like pro players are recrutted and making $100,000 per year that I have seen. Maybe it is just ignorance on my part.
                    2. Paintball is not that hard. I think given the time to practice anyone could be almost as good as most pro players. It takes no feat of strength etc. I could never compete againt the Shaq's and Jordans of the world I don't have it in me.
                    3. Paintball is not televised. I really canot follow the Pro cirtuit without traveling around the country. I have never seen a pro team play in my life.

                    I do follow the local teams. This includes the NAAPSA locally the ICC Indiana Captains Council and the Am A and Am B teams. These are people I know play with recreationally and may play in Tourneys with.
                    Until paintball is televized I will not follow a "Pro" curcuit.
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                    • SniperWolf
                      Fatal Lightning
                      • May 2001
                      • 130

                      #11
                      i myself follow nppl, mayhem masters, mgo, and things like that. i keep tabs on most pro team things. i really like pro ball and aspire to some day join a pro team. just to me being a pro paintballer seems something i can actually achieve, unlike say a pro f1 racer (another dream of mine, hehe) i can go down to my home field, survival, and watch ground zero practice, on the edge ya know. the best they can be. that to me, is what paintball is about. maybe im just a glory boy like lasoya. its just alot of people dont care much about pros on this forum, considering AGDs pretty small presence, except for the jax warriors.

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                      • Dogbone
                        Registered User
                        • May 2001
                        • 96

                        #12
                        Living in Idaho the only way I ever hear anything about "Pro" players and events is usually months after the tournements are done. To trully be able to follow and be a fan of a sporting series I think you have to be able to participate vicariously in real time. You have to be able to see or hear it as it happens or at least read it in the news the next day. How else can it be discussed unless you know whats happening? Until real time broadcasting of pro paintball events is avialable there won't be much of a fan base except amongst those who are directly involved.

                        Besides, I'm a scenario and rec-ball player and my tournement days are behind me. I have very little in common with the pro paintball world.

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                        • Eagle
                          The hand of vengence
                          • May 2001
                          • 950

                          #13
                          the way that I look at it is that there are so many differrent circuits, NPPL, APL, ect. Where other sports have one. It gets confusing, and there is no standard for setting up fields, just certain dimensions (which could be good or bad). It makes things difficult to keep track of. Not to mention as has been discussed many times before, there is little media coverage. And most anyone can put together a team here (I know it is a little more complex than that but you get the idea) butyou can't just grab a bunch of guys and go play in the NFL. I think if these were to change it would help boost the popularity of pro teams.

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                          • Whisky
                            WHO? ME!
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 426

                            #14
                            I do follow what s going on, on the NPPL circuit. I like to read about it, the new up comers, the stars of the these days, and the legend of the dinosaurs day of paintball, and all the crappy things that are going on in NPPL.
                            And i do have my favorite team, not cause they are the best but they make this sport better, just like tha Russian Legion. I like teams like Ironmen the bob long`s and SC, Image, Dynasty the AA and else, but we all know those teams win by cheating and wipping. So there is no big pride to have here.
                            But why we don`t talk about it, NPPL needs big changes to be really interesting. They need change in Format. Promoters have to get there hands off it. IT has to become a "Sport" not just a business. Things will have to change so we can become fan of a certain team, just like any other sport. It would need a whole new way of thinking and doing things. But why would the promoters do so, That way pays by itself. Why change something that makes them earn money.
                            Till then i ll keep following what`s going on.


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                            • Thordic
                              AFTICA
                              • May 2001
                              • 5986

                              #15
                              If I was at the level where I was on the verge of that level of competition, I would care.

                              But where I am now? Not really... Like hitmanng said, if it were on TV, I would follow it. But as it is, I don't really care too much. I watch PigTV sometimes, but more to get ideas on how to improve my speedball game than to see who wins. And besides, watching people shoot each other is always fun :-)

                              The lack of exposure is what hurts the pro game, though. Its hard to have a favorite team when you can never see them play. Hell, how many people here could name more than 10 pro players? I would be hard pressed to.

                              If someone here made a post like "You guys see that great match between Aftershock and the SC Ironmen? It was amazing!!", who would reply? Chances are no one saw the match. And more than that, no one really cares who won because A) they don't have a favorite team, B) they don't know anyone on either team, and C) they aren't competing on that level, so the outcome doesn't effect them.

                              However, if for example, members of the JAX Warriors posted here on a regular basis, then members would be more inclined to talk up events they were at, because it would be about supporting people you knew. If cphilip or Army or someone like that were on a pro team, then people might care more.

                              Hope that made some sense, Tom. :-)

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