Warriors Super Guns

[shartley]

Thanks Tom. You showed great class.

[magman007]

dont worry tom we love you and your product. or atleast i do!

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[Paintball_Foo]

^ wants to marry Tom, but on a note those gun's do look a little slapped together but they are 'protypes' see go easy on tom

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[RobAGD]

Having shots jeffs gun, and seen it, it's not all that. It works for Jeff and he has the resources to do what he liked to the gun. I personbally liked what he did to the grip frame. ( Removing the grip bumb, the finger grove mod etc ) but he gun was a cut down Automag Rail, and it was a exersise in what HE wanted in a gun.

AGD mde the Emag with extra material so peopel COULD do work on them to make them lighter and mill neat snitz into the parts.


Jax saw and linked Jeffs gun and ask for a copy of it for them. Tom and Eric put a lot of wokr into OTHER aspects of that gun that you all know nothing about. The front grip isnt NEW its an old *** VL Grip big whoop. You can cut the battery connector off your Emag and pop the hole out and mount a grip with a STOCK rail, nothing special nothing extra needed.

Personally I like the Stock look better some dont. To call the Jax guns copies of Jeffs would be a discredit to the work TK and Eric put into the new parts of that gun.

So when you attack Tom's creditablity you attack all of the good work he has done in testing and product devel. So go jump in a lake.

As for the milk white elbow, that's the stock AGD elbow that ships with new guns, so it was just "around" for pictures to be taken for this forum.

BTW - I would also like to point out that typically unless otherwise stated in a contract, any work done for a company by an empolyee while working for the company becomes company properity. So technically speaking that "design" belongs to AGD.

-Robert

[shartley]

[Lester]

- not sure if anyone else noticed... but look at the tank it looks different. Is that one of the new 4500psi tanks?

[ReTroMagBoy]

<font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Lester:
- not sure if anyone else noticed... but look at the tank it looks different. Is that one of the new 4500psi tanks?</font>

yes i noticed that as well, the fiber wrapping looks like the ones seen on 4500 tanks. Hopefully it is!

[sovereign82]

bill gates came up with his operating system while working for ibm...but instead of paying him a top salary, they let him start his own company...

sov82~

[Jerky]

I guess all this brings up a good question or two.

What "new" things were done to these guns that Rob was talking about?

Does Jeff work on the development side of AGD? If Jax wanted their guns modled after his gun, then maybe that's where he should be.

jerky

[fenris69]

yknow...im thinking you could put a straight microline fitting into the hopper, then run the wires through it, either straight into the grip, or into a 45/90 degree elbow screwed into the grip at some point. be a cheapo way to protect it.

[deweasel697]

awesome guns.

[DarkRipper]

Personally, all this wrangling about who designed it and who owns the idea is just beating a dead horse. The real people who need to know or care are Jeff and Tom, not us.

It's AGD's business, not ours. Arguing the point is an exercise in futility that makes you look like a nitpicking fruitloop.

MHO, of course.

DR

[Digital Me]

<font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DarkRipper:


It's AGD's business, not ours. Arguing the point is an exercise in futility that makes you look like a nitpicking fruitloop.

MHO, of course.

DR</font>

I was actually thinking the same thing about Airgun. Notice how neither of the people who work at airgun actually had anything nice to say about Jeff's guns?

Rob and AGD both tried to say he didn't influence these new guns and then Rob actually said he didn't like what Jeff has done. Jax Warriors sure like it. That's why these guns were made.

I would think that Airgun would support each other more. It is disapointing considering I've always liked how they did things.

D.

[suckmyfatangel]

i think that it all comes down to making some people look better than others. Its obvious that tom wants to go around thinking to himself that he is like god of the world and no one is smarter than him and he comes up with everything, when in fact there are others at the company that deserve some time in the sun as well....oh yea....whos name is going to be on the superbolts tom?? thats right, not the poeple that designed them and made them...