When you switched to an Intelli frame did your chopping prob. stop.

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  • Bonx0007
    AO SOCAL OG
    • Sep 2001
    • 1388

    #1

    When you switched to an Intelli frame did your chopping prob. stop.

    I am chopping like crazy and I want to blame my sloppy bench mark for the problem. When I played with an intelli frame (on a different gun but close to the same setup)I didn't have chop problems but when I use my benchy it seems like I am chopping every 20 balls or so. Well to say the least I have to clean large amount of paint out of my gun every time I use that sloppy benchy trigger. Or could it be that My power tube spacer is too short(.215) and that is affecting my paint breakage. I am in dire need of a fix for my wagner. I almost decided to sell my gun and just get an intimidator. I would rather not do that but if thats what it takes for me to have a reliable tourny marker than I will. LMK what you guys have to say.
  • damageinc54
    Machinist
    • Oct 2001
    • 1324

    #2
    I never had a chopping problem to begin with. I rip on my RT with no problems. I have the occasional break in the barrel, but I do not chop. If you are chopping then you may be outshooting your hopper. Do you have the new powerfeed plug? That could be part of your problem. Check you ball detent out too. You could also be short stroking the gun. I can rip on my RT, but let me hand it to one of my team mates and all they do is short stroke.
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    • AGD
      The man from AGD

      • Oct 2000
      • 5916

      #3
      It's not the spacer. Make SURE you have the new Parabollic Power Feed Plug, if you don't it could be your whole problem. Check to see if you have two holes in the grab tab on the plug. If not you need a new one.

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      • Bonx0007
        AO SOCAL OG
        • Sep 2001
        • 1388

        #4
        Actually I am useing the long warp plug I adjusted it so that the ball has a very smooth flow to the chamber. I did double feed a few times. If I push my nubbin too far in the barrel wont that cause chopping. Its kind of funny in the beginnig of the day my gun shoots great but the minute I start playing my 4-5 game it is Chop city. My nubbin is fully intact yet it shoots as if it were broken. More help please I play this weekend.

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        • beam
          The end.
          • May 2001
          • 2036

          #5
          I had a bad time chopping after I put on my warpfeed and intelliframe. But I don't think those products caused the problem. I think I needed to "tune" the warpfeed better. There is a post in the Tech forum about how the balls should be lined up.

          I ended up trading the warp and i-frame for a hyperframe. Chopping problems solved. However, now my hopper is back up on top. Oh well....for me it was worth it.
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          • TheBigRaguPB4L
            Proud Loser!
            • May 2001
            • 1639

            #6
            in every single mag i own(i have 5), i have the old powerfeed plug. i don't own a single parabolic powerfeed plug. i don't have chopping problems on any of my guns. well, at least not due to feeding problems. i chop on my micro(bad detent) and on my rt(reg piston blown). it's funny, with the bad reg piston, my rt shoots pretty consistantly at 360. at least it's consistant.
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            • Bonx0007
              AO SOCAL OG
              • Sep 2001
              • 1388

              #7
              I think my warp is feed poorly. I have three jumpers in I will take two out and see if it helps. I am not getting a good consistant feed rate. Keep the advice coming I will let you guys know how it goes this weekend.

              Also how do i adjust the sensitivity of the warp????
              Last edited by Bonx0007; 02-12-2002, 11:21 AM.

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              • cphilip
                Former Moderator

                • Jun 2026
                • 16216

                #8
                Tom mentioned the Parabolic plug...Brings up a good story. My Friend Walt had for years no problem with chopping his Retro Mag. So I give him the new plug and low and behold chops two balls! So we get to looking...and again low and behold its sticking over the lip of the drop into the barrel from the body. So out with the little allen wrench and a few minutes later we have it backed out about a 16th of an inch and problem solved! So its not just buying one..its also adjusting it to fit your body tolerances. THATS WHY ITS GOT THE SCREWS IN IT! Doooooh!


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                • Gecko
                  Destructive Customs
                  • May 2001
                  • 405

                  #9
                  Read the warp manual on www.airgun.com it will show you how to adjust the warp.
                  my emag used to chop like a blender, i thought i was just out shooting the hopper. One night it finally occured to me to make the warp spin longer. Add one jumper to your spin time and see if that fixes the problem. I have not choped since i redjusted the warp. Course i'm also running a halo and a 12 volt warp feed....
                  this gun is silly fast
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                  • Bonx0007
                    AO SOCAL OG
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 1388

                    #10
                    I thought taking out jumper increased the spin time????

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                    • Gecko
                      Destructive Customs
                      • May 2001
                      • 405

                      #11
                      check the manual at airgun....
                      pretty sure you add jumpers to add time
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                      • Bonx0007
                        AO SOCAL OG
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 1388

                        #12
                        checked it and it said remove to add time.

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                        • Gecko
                          Destructive Customs
                          • May 2001
                          • 405

                          #13
                          hehe yep you beat me to it just coming back to change my post.......
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                          • SoupRman
                            Hyper
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 652

                            #14
                            yoru short stroking if not one told you yet. because of the long, wiggly trigger pull of the benchy yoru not fully releasing the trigger then pulling it. this means chop city for you. atleast thats what i think. the intelliframe has a very short pull, and thats probably why you didn't chop.
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                            • Dubstar112
                              Dubstar111x
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 2321

                              #15
                              Actually, when I got my inteli It got worse. However I beleive this was because I had intellifeed set up wrong and my warp was malfunctioning. Later on i fixed it and then not too long after that.. I sold it for a Hyper-Frame(Havent had a short stroke in high rates of fire in a while... lol )
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