Being talked out of a Mag...why do people do this?

[pyrodragon]

i love pulling out my primary gun, RT ULE Pro Custom with a Z-Grip. i get a ton of looks and questions about it. i get some of the vets saying you damn mag guys love your guns to death. yeah it's call the magness disease. but i love it when i take it to get my tank filled and have the owners and workers calling each other to look at it.

[robnix]

wow I'm impressed!

The Karta project I have in the works should come in right under 2lbs. People don't get just how light a mag can be, and how small a profile it has. That mag I just told you about surprised people when they saw it had a smaller profile than a Schlocker.

[Jaan]

I love 'Mags, my primary semi has been a 'Mag for 12 years. With that being said, I wouldn't recommend a 'Mag these days. They are a niche marker now. Parts aren't that easy to find anymore for one thing. When you have to send e-mail after e-mail to one of the very few people who still have parts, practically begging them to sell you stuff and you get no reply, it pretty much sours you on the whole thing.

For the guy who wants to go out and play, not spend too much money on a gun, and be able to find parts at their local store, they're just not practical anymore. There are several nice electro guns for $400 or less these days; try putting together an electro 'Mag for that price...without having to spend the next 10 months scouring e-bay.

[RogueFactor]

I love 'Mags, my primary semi has been a 'Mag for 12 years. With that being said, I wouldn't recommend a 'Mag these days. They are a niche marker now. Parts aren't that easy to find anymore for one thing. When you have to send e-mail after e-mail to one of the very few people who still have parts, practically begging them to sell you stuff and you get no reply, it pretty much sours you on the whole thing.

For the guy who wants to go out and play, not spend too much money on a gun, and be able to find parts at their local store, they're just not practical anymore. There are several nice electro guns for $400 or less these days; try putting together an electro 'Mag for that price...without having to spend the next 10 months scouring e-bay.

Parts are easy to find. My e-mail is [email protected] . Im not hard to get a hold of, and if I dont have the parts, I can find them if they are available. Just because you cant get a hold of 1 dealer, doesnt mean the parts cant be had or found.

[Anjin3515]

I love 'Mags, my primary semi has been a 'Mag for 12 years. With that being said, I wouldn't recommend a 'Mag these days. They are a niche marker now. Parts aren't that easy to find anymore for one thing. When you have to send e-mail after e-mail to one of the very few people who still have parts, practically begging them to sell you stuff and you get no reply, it pretty much sours you on the whole thing.

For the guy who wants to go out and play, not spend too much money on a gun, and be able to find parts at their local store, they're just not practical anymore. There are several nice electro guns for $400 or less these days; try putting together an electro 'Mag for that price...without having to spend the next 10 months scouring e-bay.

Doing research into my next marker this issue came up. I pretty much settled on the Tac-One...but was worried about parts..etc. However it seems to me there are a number of options to get parts (at least for that mag)....AGD being one, and a number of independent guys like Rogue. I agree that the E-Mag is expensive and maybe not worth the price and time it takes to get one together....but I am not looking for electro anyhow. I want the best mech marker I can get. I think you have valid points...but from what I can see...at least for the Tac-One...there is no problem in having it serviced or parts being available.

[djellum]

good points

I've always judged on whether a tech or pb'r gives actual positive info on the marker they are pushing (for lack of a better word). Every marker brings something to the table, and if they promote the good it speaks for itself. It makes me laugh that ppl still say that one gun is better than the next because its more accurate and gives less problems (most common i get). I rarely hear the true defining attrributes from ppl such as gas effeciency, how quiet/loud it is, cost, warranty, ergonomics and fit, the list goes on.

166 bucks is still a steal for a superstock (and prostocks are $90 in my area). I'd never sell my Xtra, but if cockers were a hundred bucks when I bought my spyders....

[NoLifeLeft]

Dude, I've had mech cockers and mags. The cockers ALWAYS required more oil that the mags. At least in my experience. Hell, my mags hate over-oiling.

[LK-13]

"SELLING" is talking someone into buying something they don't want or need for a price they can not afford just to increase the bottom line.

when i had my Paintball shop in operation, i provided people with information and a place to get the things they wanted with one exception, safety.
there were masks i would not support because i didn't feel a person was safe wearing it.

i hate "SELLING" people on anything.

and at this shop you were being "SOLD" on something you did not want.

[Anjin3515]

"SELLING" is talking someone into buying something they don't want or need for a price they can not afford just to increase the bottom line.

when i had my Paintball shop in operation, i provided people with information and a place to get the things they wanted with one exception, safety.
there were masks i would not support because i didn't feel a person was safe wearing it.

i hate "SELLING" people on anything.

and at this shop you were being "SOLD" on something you did not want.

very true!

The good thing is that i wasnt buying

[jetgirl86]

I think it's also a matter of what a player is comfortable with, their playing style, and their budget. Oddly enough, most of the walk-ons I play with happen to have fairly high-end electronic markers. I'm the only female in my state that plays with an Automag, and fortunately the paintball stores are quite respectful of brand name markers. The downside to being an Automag owner here is finding someone who knows how to properly work on one. So far, I haven't had the need to have anything done to my ULE marker, and it's been about 4 years.

[mr doo doo]

i love mags

[WSCopic]

Some of what he said was true. Most of the troubles people have with Cockers is from not knowing what the heck they are doing.

If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it....works every time.

There are pluses and minuses to everything. Both guns can be fun, and both require a little bit of knowledge to work on them. Some people still think Cockers require some sacrifices and worship to a dark lord to time.

The dude was misinformed about somethings, but the responses here are from the other side of the debate. Either of these can be good guns, truth be told. It really just depends on what you want to do, and what you are looking for.

Heck, I watched a guy turn the allen screw on the back of the bolt in his Cocker to "adjust the speed" for 10 minutes before I saw it pop out and realized what he was doing this weekend. READ THE DAMN MANUAL!!! :rofl:

I have also watched people put in a Mag valve with no on/off and ***** about what a POS it was.

All things being equal...stupid people trump good markers.

[OneUp]

I think it's also a matter of what a player is comfortable with, their playing style, and their budget. Oddly enough, most of the walk-ons I play with happen to have fairly high-end electronic markers. I'm the only female in my state that plays with an Automag, and fortunately the paintball stores are quite respectful of brand name markers. The downside to being an Automag owner here is finding someone who knows how to properly work on one. So far, I haven't had the need to have anything done to my ULE marker, and it's been about 4 years.

lies, girls don't play paintball.

[AirAssault]

Mags suck!!

They are heavy, shoot slow, you can't find parts to fix em when they break, and I heard its what terrorists train with.

Viva la VM68!

That is all.

[DBC]