so tired of hearing this barrel length

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  • LK-13
    Confused on purpose!
    • Dec 2006
    • 584

    #16
    Originally posted by bleachit
    pff a piece of paper means nothing. I have been playing for 6 months and I know for a fact based on my eyes and experiences that my 1337 spyder with a 32" barrel shoots 400'. no, I didnt walk it off but I watch football on tv and the fields are 300' long and I know that my spyder can shoot at least a hundred feet further, at 300 fps, with the barrel level.


    'nuff said.
    1) i'll believe a 400' shot when i see it
    2) who makes a 32" barrel?

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    • Joelus Morolus
      Proud Owner of a Tac-One
      • May 2007
      • 72

      #17
      Originally posted by LK-13
      1) i'll believe a 400' shot when i see it
      2) who makes a 32" barrel?

      LK can't detect sarcasm it seems...

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      • LK-13
        Confused on purpose!
        • Dec 2006
        • 584

        #18
        sorry, I've dealt with far too many nit wits that actually believe stuff like that.

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        • Chaos_Theory!

          #19
          I find it funny this was brought up. I had a similar situation last night during rec play. I could hit the other team cross field with ease yet they couldnt get balls close to me w/o aiming upwards. This of course led to acusations of cheating and what not (which were quickly put to rest when i chronoed TWICE at the same speed they were shooting at). Paint, barrel, matching, etc. all plays a role. They were shooting tippmanns with what im sure was a horrid paint match and crappy paint while i was shootimg my mQ valved excal with a pipe and a good paint match and beter paint.

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          • warbeak2099
            That is my foot!
            • Jan 2004
            • 4447

            #20
            Originally posted by Chaos_Theory!
            my mQ valved excal
            So I'm guessing you want to get mugged is that it?
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            • OneUp
              BALLS OF STEEL!!!
              • Aug 2007
              • 252

              #21
              Originally posted by Sumthinwicked
              I have played for almost a decade whats the real truth ?????? I have a 19.5 in freak barrel on my longbow and I can reach out and touch people that cant possibly hit me persay.... (This happened) I was in at Stalingrad I aimed at 11 people I killed 11 people.... The balls would roll up to my foot then I shoot the gunner in the mask with a break so why do people think after 14 inches the barrel limits the accuracy or distance ? Mind you I am 30 and not new to any of this but alas I'm tired of the naysayers
              because longer barrel gives more friction for the ball to grind against, requiring more air to push it, that's the hypothesis. If you chrono with a 12 inch barrel without touching anything else you might find the gun shooting above 300 fps, so you can lower the reg pressure and save some gas.

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              • Chaos_Theory!

                #22
                Originally posted by warbeak2099
                So I'm guessing you want to get mugged is that it?

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                • LK-13
                  Confused on purpose!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 584

                  #23
                  something i have often wondered about:

                  if you hear a report when you shoot your Paintball gun,
                  that report is the gas in the barrel venting into the surrounding air.
                  the sound is created by that gas being of higher pressure than the surrounding air.
                  so if the gas in the barrel is still of higher pressure than the surrounding air
                  wouldn't it still be providing energy to the ball?
                  if it is still providing energy to the ball then would that not cancel out any friction that the barrel maybe creating?

                  just a line of thought that i haven't been able to get around.

                  i hope Tom Kaye visits from time to time,
                  he is one of the few that might be able to explain this scientifically.

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                  • maniacmechanic
                    PrestonCoPaintball
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3453

                    #24
                    this is informative & a good read http://www.actionpursuitgames.com/in...=150&Itemid=87

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                    • going_home
                      Hebrews 13:8

                      • Dec 2004
                      • 8345

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Chaos_Theory!
                      i was shootimg my mQ valved excal



                      Originally posted by warbeak2099
                      So I'm guessing you want to get mugged is that it?

                      Now that was funny !

                      :rofl:

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                      • warbeak2099
                        That is my foot!
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4447

                        #26
                        Hey it's not my fault he decided to have the ueber gun lol.
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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #27
                          Originally posted by LK-13
                          if you hear a report when you shoot your Paintball gun,
                          that report is the gas in the barrel venting into the surrounding air.
                          the sound is created by that gas being of higher pressure than the surrounding air.
                          so if the gas in the barrel is still of higher pressure than the surrounding air
                          wouldn't it still be providing energy to the ball? if it is still providing energy to the ball then would that not cancel out any friction that the barrel maybe creating??
                          As soon as the ball exits the barrel, the excess air dispells in towards the path of least resistance. The least resistance is into free air, not providing push against the back of the ball. Escentially, there is no additional acceleration provided to the ball once it has left the end of the barrel, no matter how much excess air is in the barrel.

                          Depending on the efficiency of the air delivery by the valve, there is an optimum barrel length. They usually range around the 10" length, give or take a few inches. A shorter barrel, requires more air to accelerate the ball in a shorter distance. A longer barrel requires more air to maintain velocity against the barrel friction for the additional length.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • SR_matt
                            Santa Sucks
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1072

                            #28
                            length will allow it to go straight farther but not give more distance. lp vs hp will change the distance slightly as well (most people will argue this one but it is what it is, you cant prove it on paper but i have has multiple people with high levels of education is science fields say to me, you cant prove it on paper but it happens this way so there). lp guns will let you shoot ever so slightly farther (the difference between a bounce and a break) so that might be what is happening here for you.

                            now im going to go get under my shelter before people start trying to bomb me telling me i dont know what im talking about, but i swear it works that way but logically it wouldnt then again logically on paper paintballs should fly much farther before dropping off but they dont.
                            -matt

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #29
                              Originally posted by SR_matt
                              length will allow it to go straight farther but not give more distance. lp vs hp will change the distance slightly as well (most people will argue this one but it is what it is, you cant prove it on paper but i have has multiple people with high levels of education is science fields say to me, you cant prove it on paper but it happens this way so there).
                              You have quantitative data from a controlled environment? Those that do, all physics aside, would disagree with you. And no, logically paintballs should fly just the distance they do if your logic happens to be based on the laws of physics.
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • y0da900
                                Mechanical Engineer & Nerd
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 215

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SR_matt
                                then again logically on paper paintballs should fly much farther before dropping off but they dont.
                                -matt
                                Only if you completely disregard air resistance and only account for gravity acting on the ball.

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