Macro and cable?

[Whee McGee]

Are you able to use macro line for c02, or do I need steel-braided hose?
There's a leak in one of my guns, and I want to know if I can solve it with the 4 or so feet of macro I have, instead of having search for the hose I don't have.
Thanks for letting me know.

[mr doo doo]

i use macroline on my mag pistoly, which uses 12 grams, and it works really well. just finished yesterday trying to use SS hose at first, but it was a real at such a small length. no wonder my friends are always telling me to use macroline

[maniacmechanic]

macro line & co2 not a good idea , unless you run some type of co2 compatable reg( Palmers) co2 bottle pressures can go as high as 1800 psi ; ever seen a burst disc blow on a co2 bottle

[MisterBones25]

i have used macro with co2 before. it will work fine. it might blow, but its not likely. the only time i have ever had macro blow on me was when my HPA tank reg failed and put 3000 psi into my gun.

[mr doo doo]

well maniac, doesnt the CO2 have to travel through some type of hose BEFORE it gets to the regulator?

[temps]

not the tankreg..

Anyway, macro line will work fine, I've seen it blow when left out in the sun though.

[mr doo doo]

ah...

when macroline "blows," what happens?

[MisterBones25]

a hole will blow open in the macro line and let all of your co2 out very quickly.

[MANN]

macro line & co2 not a good idea , unless you run some type of co2 compatable reg( Palmers) co2 bottle pressures can go as high as 1800 psi ; ever seen a burst disc blow on a co2 bottle

huh. thats odd. I have ran macro/micro line on my loaner markers for years with no problem. And if CO2 is done correctly you should not get 1800 psi. If you are you are going to probally playing in 200*F field, and had your bottle overfilled.

Std output pressure for all of my CO2 fill stations is only ~500psi.

[DaFin]

Errrr is'nt the issue with Macro and CO2 more the refridgerant action of the CO2 acting on the macro and not the pressure?

The pressure of a CO2 bottle under *normal* circumstances should be approximately that of a high pressure HPA bottle/reg, both about 850 PSI.

[maniacmechanic]

The issue here is SAFTEY . YES i've seen lot of co2 powered markers run macro line , i've also seen a marker spinning around on the hood of a car due to a burst line , i've seen guys have to leave a game due to a burst line , i've seen a cell phone frozen in a gear bag due to a blown burst disc , I could go on . Do any of the manufactures of primarily co2 powered markers use macro line on thier air systems from the factory ??
Macro line is a PLASTIC hose , all hoses get weaker after on/off cycles even steel braided hoses

mr doo doo ,when I ran co2 on my Tippmans I hooked my Palmers straight to my ASA
on my a-5 I ran a male Palmers & a steel braided line from the ASA to the Palmers

MANN , talk to your welding gas supplier ask him how much pressure is in a full 75lb bottle

Here a neat little link that give a lot of info on co2 from Warpig http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...s/gasses.shtml

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2pv.gif

[mr doo doo]

ah, thats interesting mechanic. the only reason im not so afraid of using macroline with CO2 because im not using a CO2 tank, im using 12 grams, so if I DO blow my macroline, it'll last for like a second.

[athomas]

CO2 output pressure is usually around 850psi, which is why standard air tank pressures are set to 850psi to allow for compatibility.

Most macroline is rated well below 850 psi. Add heat and degrading from sun as well as a few scratches, and you have severly derated the macroline. Be careful what you buy. Only buy the good stuff which at least starts near the rating you need.

I personally like steel braided hose. It gives an added measure of safety. Even then you need to buy properly rated hose.

[mr doo doo]

yea, i used to love stainless steel hose, until i just started to have trouble installing them and stuff, and it just gets frustrating .

good macroline? hobbyhorse...

[MANN]

MANN , talk to your welding gas supplier ask him how much pressure is in a full 75lb bottle

I dont have to ask him. I have pressure gagues on all of my fill stations. The pressure is usually @600psi at room temp. ~75ish

I have filled my own CO2 tanks since I was 12 (Im 23 now). To date I have never had problems with blowouts with micro/macro/any other type of line. IIRC I have only had 2 burst disks ever blow. Both of those tanks were left next to a fire, and probally got a little too hot. Although it is probally not recomended I dont use a scale to fill either. you can usually watch the liquid fill to the top if filled correctly. Think about it most of our remote coils are also made out of micro/macro hose, and I have seen them ran with adjustable HPA tanks.

Im not saying that it is 100%safe to use micro/macro hose, but if you buy from the correct hose you willl not have any problems.

Either way. My .02 is use a line from a decent dealer, and you wont have any problems. Someone who leaves their tank in their car on 100+days probally deserves having their micro/macro burst on them.