how rare are eclipse rails?

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  • Chaos_Theory!

    #16
    There is a difference between the SP and PE kits. I believe i have a PE one coming and the rail has some slight milling unlike the splashed one posted in thsi thread.

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    • [NA]WARLORD
      Registered User
      • Sep 2001
      • 764

      #17
      The kits vary, but the foregrips, body rails, sight rails, powerfeed plugs and tourney locks are all different designs.

      I helped a fellow Magger on the Nation, I'll copy and paste the info on the different parts here:





      Smart Parts kit;



      See the shape of the foregrip under the barrel (disregard the barrel, its a custom threaded barrel for a Freak, not offered back in the Splash days). Also note the smoothness of the AM rail.

      Eclipse kit:



      Note the difference in the foregrip milling and the milling on the AM rail, also the sight rail has an Eclipse bubble logo on it.

      Here is a better pic of the detail in the Eclipse kit:



      Notice the milling on the back of the rail ? Also, the short notch milled in the sight rail, compared to the long notch in the Smart Parts sight rail:



      Power feed plugs were also different. The Eclipse version looked like a standard plug whereas the Smart Parts version was missing the tab (pain in the arse to turn too)

      Eclipse Power Feed plug.......:



      compared to a Smart Parts Power Feed plug:



      Lastly, the Tourney Locks shape were also different:

      Eclipse version:



      Smart Parts version:




      Sorry Arron, your correct, Eclipse didn't have a trigger frame (to my knowledge) Smart Parts did.
      Last edited by [NA]WARLORD; 09-28-2007, 11:38 AM.

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      • TwilightG
        www.BigEvilOnline.com

        • Mar 2007
        • 1387

        #18
        Interesting... I wonder which kit is more rare?

        It's too bad 'splash' went out of style.. I still really like it. I wish all these ULE components were available with splash anno. Of course, I could probably have it done but that'd probably cost a bit.

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        • [NA]WARLORD
          Registered User
          • Sep 2001
          • 764

          #19
          Actually, the trigger frames and barrels in matching kits are pretty rare, but the matching gas thru stocks (both companies had them) and the matching 20 oz tanks are the rarest pieces. A dude in the sept motm contest has the first splashed 20 oz I have seen in years.

          Rare Splash Mags:





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          • wolf13
            Registered User
            • Aug 2001
            • 77

            #20
            so much good splashness. I hadn't relized the sp and eclipse kits were differnt, i had always thought they were the same. interesting. Besides eclipse and sp though, there were other companies that offered splash parts as well

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            • [NA]WARLORD
              Registered User
              • Sep 2001
              • 764

              #21
              Originally posted by Chaos_Theory!
              There is a difference between the SP and PE kits. I believe i have a PE one coming and the rail has some slight milling unlike the splashed one posted in thsi thread.

              Thats correct, Arons is mostly a Smart Parts kit, with an Eclipse sight rail. The Eclipse body rail also had a bubble logo on it:




              However, Aron's is still a nice looking piece with all the parts matching in color. Building a Splash Mag with all matching parts these days is tough to do.

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              • AronMsmith1987
                Nasty SC Pirate!
                • Jan 2007
                • 200

                #22
                WOW no Idea I had a Hybrid matching kit from 2 different compaines I have the SP Barrel, Rail, EX Chamber, and ASA with the Eclipse Site Rail, PF Plug, and Tourney Lock man that is kind of an interesting kick in the Arse but hey it all matches and looks great so I can't really complain right?

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                • AronMsmith1987
                  Nasty SC Pirate!
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 200

                  #23
                  Originally posted by [NA]WARLORD
                  Actually, the trigger frames and barrels in matching kits are pretty rare, but the matching gas thru stocks (both companies had them) and the matching 20 oz tanks are the rarest pieces. A dude in the sept motm contest has the first splashed 20 oz I have seen in years.
                  I guess I didn't realize it was so hot to have a matching tank but for those that enjoy that sort of thing here is my Sterling straight up old school style and if you are asking No I am not getting rid of it sorry...




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                  • [NA]WARLORD
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 764

                    #24
                    Originally posted by AronMsmith1987
                    WOW no Idea I had a Hybrid matching kit from 2 different compaines I have the SP Barrel, Rail, EX Chamber, and ASA with the Eclipse Site Rail, PF Plug, and Tourney Lock man that is kind of an interesting kick in the Arse but hey it all matches and looks great so I can't really complain right?

                    Looks good to me, but even though there are some differences in the kits, the colors were all the same between both companies. Eclipse sold them first, SP distributed them here in the states, then designed their own versions. Also, the Splash kits sold on PBGear.com back in the day, were mixed parts kits, some had pieces from both manufacturer's mixed in the kits.

                    Eclipse, to my knowledge, didnt offer trigger frames or barrels, those were solely provided by SP. However, since SP distributed the Eclipse kits, I assume thats how the barrels were included, so SP would get a piece of the pie until they came out with their own kit.

                    Originally posted by AronMsmith1987
                    I guess I didn't realize it was so hot to have a matching tank but for those that enjoy that sort of thing here is my Sterling straight up old school style
                    I was mainly refering to the Splash kits for Mags, since SP had an ultimate kit that offered a Splashed Smart remote and a matching gas thru stock or a vert mounted Exp chamber with a 20 oz tank color matched to the Splash kit.

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                    • AronMsmith1987
                      Nasty SC Pirate!
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 200

                      #25
                      I realized this but I figured since SP is so big in the UK and all as well as Arrow Precision and the sterling that I felt the need to post my Sterling with SP grips and set up for Old school times hence the reason I had everything annoed to match in a very old paint stroke style, it was mearly eye candy for the public and the old schoolers but if its a splashed mag you want then here was my old Eclipse mag with Deluxe kit 100% complete with packaging...







                      Is that better? LOL Thanks AronMsmith1987

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                      • Chaos_Theory!

                        #26
                        That setup is nearly identical to mine. The only difference is i have a ULE body and i only have the eclipse rail and foregrip.

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                        • [NA]WARLORD
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 764

                          #27
                          Thats a gorgeous Mag Aron. Very well kept. I thought about keeping mine, having the rail ULE'd, adding a ULE body, separating the AA front from the back and having it threaded to fit a Freak back, then purchasing a ULE'd Intelli frame, having it splash anodized to match and then sending it out to be pnuemagged, but figured the expense of it all wouldn't be worth it.

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