Finished my Pneumag!

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  • t0nnn
    Registered User
    • Feb 2007
    • 552

    #16
    by tight, what do you mean? Is the frame too narrow ...I picked one up and was planning on going ep with it

    look how low my 3-way is in my chimera

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    • Andrewliu6294
      Nothing to do but wait.
      • Jul 2007
      • 258

      #17
      i have one, and looking at it, it looks like that if you move the msv down, the angle it's at wont allow it to actuate properly. theeres a section behind where he placed the msv thats cut away stock, probably for the sear, which allows it to gain that tiny bit of angle needed.

      hows the pull strength with it like that? and check out the clearance between the sear and the msv. amazing. and whats that yellow paperclip looking thing? ;p

      if looks as if you removed a bit of the wiring/hosing, cleaning it up a bit, you could move the mpa-3 down a bit, lightening the trigger pull by increasing leverage, and thus less pressure needed from the lpr.

      also, raw, there is an alternative to milling the frame. you can mill down a good 1/4 of the back of the msv, removing one hole and allowing it to sit at the proper angle. although if you do it this way, you'll need a small place like tonn's mounted to the intellifeed mount, and using that to mount the msv instead. a little more work, but a little cleaner as well.

      EDIT: hey raw butter, are you using the trigger stop to push the trigger pin? i just noticed that the pin is in generally the same area as the trigger stop.
      Last edited by Andrewliu6294; 10-24-2007, 07:37 PM.

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      • blee70
        Registered User
        • Aug 2001
        • 38

        #18
        Nice!

        Sweet looking...

        Is the video still available? The link is not working for me. I want to convert mine to a pneu-mag as well. Thanks!

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        • rawbutter
          Registered User
          • Feb 2007
          • 1463

          #19
          Originally posted by t0nnn
          by tight, what do you mean? Is the frame too narrow
          Yes, the frame is narrow. If you move the MSV down, it won't actuate properly. But... I was just unwilling to mill the frame. (This was my first time, after all.) I'm sure if you cut away a small part of the frame, or if you cut down the actual MSV (like Andrew suggested), then you could move the MSV down a little more, leave the lever a little longer, and decrease the trigger pull weight.

          Originally posted by Andrewliu6294
          hows the pull strength with it like that? and check out the clearance between the sear and the msv. amazing. and whats that yellow paperclip looking thing? ;p
          Check out the video. From what I can tell, it's a little heavy compared to some other pneumags (because the lever is so short), but I can still walk the trigger and outshoot my Halo Frontman hopper. And I play mostly woodsball, so I'm completely happy with it's performance. I don't think I'll ever truly need the functional limits of this hopper.

          As for the yellow paper clip, that's just wrapped in there to keep the hoses lined up where I want them and out of the way.


          Originally posted by Andrewliu6294
          EDIT: hey raw butter, are you using the trigger stop to push the trigger pin? i just noticed that the pin is in generally the same area as the trigger stop.
          The trigger stop on the UMF has a little rubber tip. I tried using it, but it would actually stick just a little bit every once in a while, and the trigger wouldn't return properly. So I took it out. Then, I just messed around with the trigger rod until it was just the right length.

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          • rawbutter
            Registered User
            • Feb 2007
            • 1463

            #20
            Originally posted by blee70
            Sweet looking...

            Is the video still available? The link is not working for me. I want to convert mine to a pneu-mag as well. Thanks!
            Thanks for the compliment.

            As for the video, not sure if I can help... it works for me. If right-clicking and saving it to your hard drive doesn't work, try just clicking on it. (You do need QuickTime.)

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            • rawbutter
              Registered User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1463

              #21
              Originally posted by t0nnn
              look how low my 3-way is in my chimera
              That is indeed very low. (I would have never thought to add a little mount for the MSV.) You're trigger weight must be incredibly light. Nicely done. Much better than mine.

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              • t0nnn
                Registered User
                • Feb 2007
                • 552

                #22
                thank cyberave lol....he made that bracket and installed my pneus, but yeah the pull is crazy light, i'll have to do some messing around with the umf I never actually noticed it being more narrow untill seeing yours, if I come up with something i'll let you know

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                • rawbutter
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1463

                  #23
                  Originally posted by t0nnn
                  thank cyberave lol....he made that bracket and installed my pneus, but yeah the pull is crazy light, i'll have to do some messing around with the umf I never actually noticed it being more narrow untill seeing yours, if I come up with something i'll let you know
                  Yeah... and the problem isn't actually the space behind the MSV... it's the space in front of it. There are holes already drilled in the intellifeed mount inside the UMF, and they're just not in the exact right spot. The MSV also has two holes, but if you use the top one, then the MSV sits so close to the front of the UMF that the lever cannot fully depress... which causes problems, obviously. If you use the bottom hole on the MSV, like I did, then... well... you can see the result.

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                  • t0nnn
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 552

                    #24
                    I'm gonna look at my frame when I get home, but it looks like I can mount a bracket...something like in my chimera. Might require a dremmel to cut a slot for it to mount and to give the 3way some more room

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                    • mstrdbz
                      former cave baller
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 225

                      #25
                      Originally posted by t0nnn
                      I'm gonna look at my frame when I get home, but it looks like I can mount a bracket...something like in my chimera. Might require a dremmel to cut a slot for it to mount and to give the 3way some more room
                      That's what I did here:


                      Sorry about the crappy pic, all I have is a cameraphone. Anyway I notched a piece of aluminum to fit on the intellifeed mount and msv-2

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                      • rawbutter
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1463

                        #26
                        Originally posted by mstrdbz
                        That's what I did here:


                        Sorry about the crappy pic, all I have is a cameraphone. Anyway I notched a piece of aluminum to fit on the intellifeed mount and msv-2
                        You win.

                        One of these days, I'll get tired of my "less than super-dooper light" pull, and I'll rip the thing apart and redo it the way you did, probably.

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                        • mstrdbz
                          former cave baller
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 225

                          #27
                          Originally posted by rawbutter
                          You win.

                          One of these days, I'll get tired of my "less than super-dooper light" pull, and I'll rip the thing apart and redo it the way you did, probably.
                          Nah - I'd call it a draw, I've got a huge lpr hanging off the va.

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                          • t_boneshacone
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 120

                            #28
                            ok so on the fabco msv-2, do you have to drill the holes for the barbs, or are the holes for the barbs already there

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                            • mstrdbz
                              former cave baller
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 225

                              #29
                              Originally posted by t_boneshacone
                              ok so on the fabco msv-2, do you have to drill the holes for the barbs, or are the holes for the barbs already there
                              The holes are already there, and their already tapped.

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                              • Mongoose
                                VenomousDesigns.com

                                • Nov 2006
                                • 1593

                                #30
                                you can pick up a complete kit from cyberave68

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