What makes mags so accurate?

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  • RavishingEddie
    Creator of the EMAG 9

    • Feb 2006
    • 727

    #1

    What makes mags so accurate?

    I have studied the way mags work and I have looked at many illustrations and animations for mags (unbalanced blowforward) spool (balanced blowforward) and hammer piston types.
    I had an SL-68II (Nelson based) which I loved alot before I owned a mag.
    I will admit I had problems with my emag at first with setting the LVL-10 and sear/dwell adjustment, but one thing that kept me close to the family was the great accuracy.
    Now my friends had just started playing paintball and already were owning 07 Egos and DM7's.

    They made fun of me and my ancient gun which they had no clue about. The little they knew was from what I had told them. So one day I finally gave in and bought an 07 Ego. The gun was wicked light and very easy to hit full out speeds.

    Once I played I felt like the thing was gonna fly off my hands, it was very light and super fast, but once the tempo slowed down we began to snap shoot, it did not come close to my Emag in accuracy. Now don't get me wrong the Ego is a great tournament marker, and I got alot of eliminations when I used my friends 06, but when I snap shoot; the mag just hits the spot. I sold the Ego 2 weeks after I bought it.

    Now is it just me or are mags really this accurate? If the mag is this accurate, why aren't other similar systems like the Ion as good?

    I apologize in advance to anyone that is a lover of the above mentioned guns. Don't want to start a gun vs. gun thread. Just paying homage to my favorite marker.
    Last edited by RavishingEddie; 10-27-2007, 12:00 AM.
  • mr doo doo
    doo doo, stanky
    • Mar 2007
    • 1379

    #2
    the part about your friends making fun of you, yea, get that all the time... but i must agree with you: mags are DEFINITELY accurate, and its hard to move onto another gun because of it.

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    • Dewok82
      Registered User
      • Apr 2006
      • 433

      #3
      Good paint, a good barrel, and a good paint to barrel match. Consistent velocity helps as well.

      A lot of the new whiz-bang electros are made to be really light so the kids with chicken arms can brag about how little their setup weighs. I don't consider Automags to be heavy, but they are a bit heavier than the newer high end electros. IMHO, a heavier marker provides a more stable shooting platform which leads to increased accuracy.

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      • SR_matt
        Santa Sucks
        • Jun 2006
        • 1072

        #4
        there are so many factors to why a gun is/seems/acts more accurate over another.

        mags are single tube markers so they are easier to sight with, the shape of them (at least for me) make it much easier to just know where the barrel is and where the balls will go. the paint/barrel match is one thing that will always change but, the amount of air put into the reservoir in guns like mags is/ can be more consistent than guns that the valve is slammed open.

        the big thing comes down to "if it works for you, use it, if it doesnt then dont" simple as that. slinging paint works for some things, other times you need to have the marker that you can shoot and hit what you want first time. i shot a cocker and sniper 2 for a while before i had my mag, all the guns are very accurate/ consistent BUT the mag is easier to drop a ball where i want it with out having to think much if at all, thats how it was out of the box for me so i knew there was something god about the mag for me.

        the speed vs accuracy is why i like the ult's, i can drop a ball where i want it but i can drop my hopper almost as fast as my friends electros (of course not as fast but i shoot to much so it does keep me a little slower but if weight/space/ money were no issue i could go through a few cases in a day of play, first scenario i went to i dropped probably 4-5 cases (luckly a huge team that is a friend team was handing out paint in the final battle and swapping our air tanks with theirs for the hour so i dropped more paint in that hour than any other hour in my life (letting my ult do all the work for about an hour straight)

        -matt

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        • Russ
          Senior Membrane
          • Jul 2001
          • 1935

          #5
          Wait a minute...

          EVERYBODY knows 'cockers are more accurate than Mags


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          • ProblemKinder
            Colossians 3:8
            • Aug 2006
            • 861

            #6
            Originally posted by RavishingEddie
            What makes mags so accurate?
            the barrel

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            • Thotograph
              I dont need 13.3 welts/sec
              • Feb 2007
              • 958

              #7
              one word: quality

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              • MoeMag
                Still here.
                • Dec 2005
                • 1821

                #8
                Last edited by MoeMag; 10-26-2007, 11:23 PM.

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                • Freebird
                  play in the dirt, woodball

                  • Aug 2006
                  • 458

                  #9
                  AGD motto'

                  "Quality Always Shoots Straight"

                  i think its because the air comes from the back of the bolt, not from an underneath passage like cockers and spyder type markers.

                  im not sure, but i LOVE sniping people first shot with my MAG14

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                  • Mechanic79
                    Whatever, I do what I want

                    • Jul 2001
                    • 666

                    #10
                    Quality, Consistency and Reliability.

                    Quality, Consistency and Reliability.

                    Mechanic79's FeedBack

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                    • phizz
                      Registered User

                      • Jan 2006
                      • 1353

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Russ
                      Wait a minute...

                      EVERYBODY knows 'cockers are more accurate than Mags


                      I can't beleive nobody has commented on this one yet!!!

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                      • Skoad
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 3265

                        #12
                        Ok here's the secret. Consistant FPS and a halfway decent barrel/paint match. TAaDaA!!


                        we all know mags can only do this

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                        • dropzone
                          SpecOps Sposored team
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 102

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Russ
                          Wait a minute...

                          EVERYBODY knows 'cockers are more accurate than Mags



                          Actually I shoot both an Mag rt ule custom and an 04 Orracle. Both shoot with a totally different style and feel but are vary comparable when it comes to accuracy or for a better word consistency.

                          Accuracy is a relative term when it comes to paintball so anyone that has enough experience and knowledge of the sport really doesn't buy into the hype. Consistency and reliability are the 2 key factors in any marker, If todays industry where to put those 2 key elements first above all else we would have basically every old school high end marker that is available to us here on this B/S/T part of the forum and the host of many others at a fraction of the cost of what you would pay for new school hype.

                          SSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!

                          Don`t let this get around but my all mechanical mag can shoot just as fast as any new elctro on the market. My Orracle can put ball on ball in a accuracy test against any top design in the industry. Now, with that being said my mag is just as accurate as the Orracle and if I chose to do so I can buy the upgrades to make the Orracle a paint monster both of which can compete against any " high end" marker being produced right now.

                          Believe me ? I care not. Ill just keep buying the old school left overs at a fraction of the cost and still Keep those new 1,400 dollar markers in check.


                          Consistency + Quality paint to barrel match = accuracy

                          Volume of paint is vs. accuracy is restrained by the equation above.

                          I am an old man that is tired, worn out and his old bones ache when he moves. I have been involved in this sport for over 10 years and have seen a lot of advancement, innovative and great ideas advance the sport of paintball but there is one thing that never ceases to amaze me. The need for younger players to buy into the mass publications and advertisements of companies that make claims that defy the law of physics and common sense.

                          Over the last 5 years the B.S. has been piling up at x squared the rate that it was piling up
                          in the 5 years past.

                          So who's to blame? I blame MTV.


                          Think for yourselves kids............. Don`t believe the hype!!!!!!

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                          • Lenny
                            I AM the AO famous!
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1628

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Russ
                            Wait a minute...

                            EVERYBODY knows 'cockers are more accurate than Mags


                            No... 'Cockers simply shoot farther.

                            /I miss the rivalry.
                            Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
                            ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

                            Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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                            • secretweaponevan
                              Only HALF Polish!
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1132

                              #15
                              As mentioned, the only thing that affects accuracy is consistency in the form of paint to barrel match and velocity.

                              You are probably feel that you are more accurate with your mag because you "know" it. Just by the feel of it in your hands, you know where it is going to hit when you pull the trigger. I think so many people are constantly buying and selling guns and never satisfied because they don't take the time to develop the muscle memory that comes from "knowing" one particular marker.

                              Grats to you for getting hooked on quality.

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