Tac-One vs Ion

[mostpeople]

Look at the sexiness you could make..

Here is my current collection





and its ever growing....

[punkncat]

The Ion is what it is. An inexpensive, entry level electronic marker. Its performance out of the box is superior to anything in its price range especially as pertaining to firepower. ITs got all of the basic features of markers costing MUCH more, and is upgradable to enhance its already solid paint slinging ability. That in itself is the key. By the time you finish doing the required upgrades, which will at the very least be a decent barrel, new trigger, feedneck, and a QEV you will have invested enough money to have purchased a nicer marker from the getgo....IE nearly a rail, mini, etc...and almost enough to buy a stock RTULE.
The Ion will break down, you will have issues with maint. just like any other marker. Maybe a bit more than a better marker, just due to quality issues.

The RT ULE (or Tac if you prefer) is rock solid, great construction, and really requires nothing out of the box short of a clamping feed in some cases. You will have some issues tuning the LX bolt. No big deal for most, but it requires a break in time, and some minor adjusting after wear to work optimally (sp?). With the addition of an adjustable HPA tank, you can adjust the pressure to increase reactivity, and gain firepower increase in BPS. Once its tuned it requires a couple of drops of oil every now and again. To clean it, leave it aired up and swish it in a bucket of water. Pull it out fire a few times, dry with a towel if you feel like it, and put her in the gear bag until next time. No batteries, no hoses to come off, solenoids to go out, boards to fry......most bulletproof marker made IMO.

Its all about what you are looking for. The Ion is more suited to and easier to make comply with Speedball/PSP rules. The Mag can come under those rules, but doesn't ramp "legally" when on an adjustable air source. Some people will consider the RT effect "auto".
Good luck in your choice.

[Twistedpsyche]

I currently own both. I'm new to the Tac One, but it is quickly becoming my favorite. My Ion tends to annoy me due to the fact that working on it is a pain. I hate having to deal with the electronics, the eyes, the wires. Adjusting things is a pain, having to tweak the settings on the board. Having to worry about my switch not working, batteries dying......

I would go with a Tac One over an Ion any day of the week. If fast shooting is your thing there are Pneumag conversions you can do, or have done for you.

The Tac one is more rugged, more reliable. The only downside is it is a bit of an airhog, compared to an Ion or something similar. Oh and another thing, I was very surprised how light the Tac One is!! It is very very light.

Hope that helps. I have a cold so it's probably not as clear as it could be. If you decide to buy an Ion let me know. I'll sell ya mine. :)

[tech-chan]

I'm a tech for a local shop and I have seen this many, many times: Guy comes in and is set on buying Ion, He buys Ion and is happy for a month. Guy comes back in and wants upgrades. We fix it up and give it back to him. Guy comes back in and says, "It just broke on me, I did'nt touch anything!" Thats what happens when we sell an Ion. This is what happens when we sell a Tac: Guy#2 comes in and buys a Tac after much discussion. Guy#2 does not come back and want upgrades besides a barrel kit. Guy#2 is much happier and plays without worry.
Honestly, if you buy an Ion, it will break. It is made out of plastic. And I'm not gonna fix it.

[MedicDVG]

The Ion is what it is. An inexpensive, entry level electronic marker. Its performance out of the box is superior to anything in its price range especially as pertaining to firepower. ITs got all of the basic features of markers costing MUCH more, and is upgradable to enhance its already solid paint slinging ability. That in itself is the key. By the time you finish doing the required upgrades, which will at the very least be a decent barrel, new trigger, feedneck, and a QEV you will have invested enough money to have purchased a nicer marker from the getgo....IE nearly a rail, mini, etc...and almost enough to buy a stock RTULE.
The Ion will break down, you will have issues with maint. just like any other marker. Maybe a bit more than a better marker, just due to quality issues.

The RT ULE (or Tac if you prefer) is rock solid, great construction, and really requires nothing out of the box short of a clamping feed in some cases. You will have some issues tuning the LX bolt. No big deal for most, but it requires a break in time, and some minor adjusting after wear to work optimally (sp?). With the addition of an adjustable HPA tank, you can adjust the pressure to increase reactivity, and gain firepower increase in BPS. Once its tuned it requires a couple of drops of oil every now and again. To clean it, leave it aired up and swish it in a bucket of water. Pull it out fire a few times, dry with a towel if you feel like it, and put her in the gear bag until next time. No batteries, no hoses to come off, solenoids to go out, boards to fry......most bulletproof marker made IMO.

Its all about what you are looking for. The Ion is more suited to and easier to make comply with Speedball/PSP rules. The Mag can come under those rules, but doesn't ramp "legally" when on an adjustable air source. Some people will consider the RT effect "auto".
Good luck in your choice.

/End thread.

It is all there, nothing more needs to be said.

[Avale187]

Lol, yeah, I guess everyone is saying the same song and dance. I do have a question though. Ok so, if I go to say Challenge park with the ULE/X-valve combo. Am I going to get yelled at/kicked out? Do they consider that "Semi" auto?

[JRingold]

Lol, yeah, I guess everyone is saying the same song and dance. I do have a question though. Ok so, if I go to say Challenge park with the ULE/X-valve combo. Am I going to get yelled at/kicked out? Do they consider that "Semi" auto?

If it is setup correctly and doesn't bounce or go Full Auto, you'll be fine. If you're messing with it and it bounces the trigger uncontrollably, they'll probably yell at you.

[trevorjk]

if you have the correct ON/OFF pin in the mag AND/OR you have the correct imput pressure you should not have to worry about the mag bouncing. however, to get the mag to bounce you will need to up the pressure from a standard 800-850psi to 900 plus or use a different sized ON/OFF pin.

[dixieoutfitter94]

if you buy an ion, you will loose a but load of money (unless you buy it used) but a tac-one can get complicated.... if I were you I would buy a used ion with 400 bucks in upgrades for 200 on the nation THEN buy a tac-one after you get back into the sport and know what goes down

[DBC]

To me it almost like comparing apples and oranges. You have to decide two things: 1) Mechanical or Electronic; 2) Speedball or Mil-sim. Once you decide those two things, you will know better what to do. I own a Tac-one and it has been great. If I had to do it all over again, I would get the same basic marker but with a different body, one that was not mil-sim.

I have shot an Ion before but I prefer the way the mag feels while shooting. If you will be playing nothing but speedball (which I doubt), then the Tac-one is probably not the way to go. However, having said that, I use my Tac-one to play speedball often and I can hold my own.

[Enemy]

can i throw it out there its brand new but i say Porto SlG its from dye wich isnt smartparts and looks to have a simple solid design go to pbn under the dye forum to see pics and tear downs as wells as vids