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  • Toll
    Registered User
    • Jun 2005
    • 758

    #1

    Air efficiency

    Just wondering what people are getting as their standard air efficiencies...I must be doing something wrong because off of 4000 psi I get a hopper and a pod at 68/45.

    Set up

    Pnuemag /w emag valve/l10




    2) How much would removing the level 10 improve my efficiency? Not being able to shoot with less than 2k psi in the tank is a real downer.
  • Stayhuge
    Registered User

    • Aug 2007
    • 1590

    #2
    Sounds like there is something wrong. You should be able to shoot at least to <1000psi.

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    • jade_monkey07
      Cheater Tac one
      • Dec 2006
      • 984

      #3
      my tac-one can shoot down to about 600ish, it just loses some reactivity at the low end
      Originally posted by Stayhuge
      Sounds like there is something wrong. You should be able to shoot at least to <1000psi.

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      • Enemy
        aKa PROZAC
        • Aug 2003
        • 1245

        #4
        i get 1 hopper + 4 pods off a 4000 psi fill dropping to 3000

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        • dstud2000
          Demon Slayer

          • Aug 2007
          • 491

          #5
          I am getting 1 hopper and 4 pods from my RT ULE....Xvalve with level 10. And that is with my Draxxus 48/4500 peanut. Once I drop below 1000 psi in my tank I lose the RT effect and after I hit about 300 to 400psi it is no longer worth shooting, but down to that point my shots are all still maintaing a decent velocity....250+ fps.

          My Mag is not a pneumag though.

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          • Toll
            Registered User
            • Jun 2005
            • 758

            #6
            Maybe my LX is tuned poorly. It tends to get stuck forward at anything below X (2000 ish) psi and takes a while to reset.

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            • teufelhunden
              Registered Bamf
              • Jul 2003
              • 2691

              #7
              Is 4k after it's cooled down? Or 4k right off a quick fill?
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              • Toll
                Registered User
                • Jun 2005
                • 758

                #8
                4k off a proper fill, as we generally don't drive the last 500 psi.


                Lets say I removed the l10 bolt entirely (blasphemy, I know) how much would that help?..and what all would I have to do to remove it and install a level 7
                Last edited by Toll; 11-18-2007, 09:29 AM.

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                • BlueDragonX
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 140

                  #9
                  With my X-Valved lvl10 E-Mag and a 68/45 with a full 4500psi fill I went through five pods and a hopper and I think I had around 800psi left over. That was over the course of one two hour game at Red Dawn a couple of weeks ago. I probably could have gotten another pod off, but I wasn't carrying any more on me at the time.

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                  • dstud2000
                    Demon Slayer

                    • Aug 2007
                    • 491

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Toll
                    Maybe my LX is tuned poorly. It tends to get stuck forward at anything below X (2000 ish) psi and takes a while to reset.
                    My RT Ule was getting bad efficiency till I changed the level 10 around a bit. You may want to read through the level 10 tuning guide again. From what I experienced, if you tune it to make it easier on paint, you will lose efficiency, if you tune it so it is not as easy on paint you should see an increase in efficiency. That is just from my experience with my level 10.

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                    • SR_matt
                      Santa Sucks
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1072

                      #11
                      before you jump to thinking its the lvl x try to just make sure that the lvl x functions correctly with the squeegee test. if it does work right then try the gun with a different tank, the tank reg you were using might not be recharging correctly, if that doesnt work try cleaning your reg in you valve on your mag. and the third thing to check is the set up inside your lvl 10.

                      -matt

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                      • Toll
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 758

                        #12
                        Additionally the bolt doesn't always return straight away...I thought it was the detent but it only ever happens when there's paint in the breech.

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                        • SR_matt
                          Santa Sucks
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1072

                          #13
                          it doesnt return right away?

                          but only when you shoot paint?


                          if the bolt is not returning correctly it could be the carrier size, carrier oring, or the back field strip screw may be to tight. all just suggestions that may or may not do anything

                          -matt

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                          • the123
                            JJ's Master
                            • May 2001
                            • 736

                            #14
                            If you are reverting back to level 7 be ready to break paint. Unless you are shooting some hard-shelled paint, the speed of the level 7 bolt as it passes the breach will nick the ball waiting too hard and if brittle, will crack just enough for the next ball to break down the barrel. To help alleviate the problem try grinding down the tip of the level 7 bolt to mirror how the level 10 bolt looks. Also, a foamie bolt is highly recommended if you do. In my experience you will gain about 10% air efficiency with the change. Good luck.

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                            • punkncat
                              One foot less
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 5841

                              #15
                              There is something wrong. You should be doing well better than that. I really know nothing about pneu. setups, but I would look there. Its almost like you are activating the on/off too long, if thats even possible.
                              Also if your LX is sticking you probably don't have it tuned right. Its been a minute since I worked out the intricate details of tuning one, ya know its kind of set it and forget it...
                              I can play at least a few games, I would say 2 hoppers and 2-3 pods on mine with a 68/3k. Its hard to know for sure, because I haven't played in a while and when I did, I generally refilled every game just so I wouldn't run out if the game went long.

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