Brass Freak Inserts

[Warwitch]

So all I ever hear is how good brass shoots, its so smooth, best barrels, blah, blah, ...... Im considering having some brass Freak inserts made for my DW Fibur. Anybody think this is a valid concept?? Pointless??

[MedicDVG]

I have heard that the Stainless steel inserts are far superior to the aluminum, so why not brass.

[Chronobreak]

its valid,

though you may want to check the legalities

[angrysasquatch]

Actually, I've heard the stainless inserts shoot worse than the aluminum. The stainless has a worse surface finish than the anodized aluminum, so it doesn't shoot through breaks as well. If you're just making a few for yourself, I wouldn't worry about the legalities. Otherwise, we all know what Smart Parts does best...

Brass would certainly be better, but I'm not sure you'd see any appreciable difference. Only one way to find out though.

[georgeyew]

I have heard that the Stainless steel inserts are far superior to the aluminum, so why not brass.

I suspect that the inserts that are made so thin out of brass would be very soft and delicate. But if you can get it to work, I think that it would be a great idea.

[Warwitch]

I suspect that the inserts that are made so thin out of brass would be very soft and delicate. But if you can get it to work, I think that it would be a great idea.

Hmmm, hadnt considered that...... Though Im thinking they wouldnt be subject to much stress. Pretty much from the case to the barrel.

[snoopay700]

Hmmm, hadnt considered that...... Though Im thinking they wouldnt be subject to much stress. Pretty much from the case to the barrel.

Plus any stress would be from the inside to the outside, from the ball itself, as long as you're careful oh how you put the insert in, and the barrel would provide teh sturctual support for that, so as long as you have a barrel that accepts inserts and surrounds the insert you should be fine.

I don't see why it would be a drastic increase, if you had a seal to worry about it would help that, but other than that it doesn't seem like it would make much of a difference.

[TwilightG]

I suspect that the inserts that are made so thin out of brass would be very soft and delicate. But if you can get it to work, I think that it would be a great idea.

Don't accidentally step on one...

[going_home]

So all I ever hear is how good brass shoots, its so smooth, best barrels, blah, blah, ...... Im considering having some brass Freak inserts made for my DW Fibur. Anybody think this is a valid concept?? Pointless??

I think the cost would far out weigh any benefits.
(compared to the cost of the aluminum inserts)

[angrysasquatch]

Brass is stronger than aluminum (99% sure) You'd also have to worry about machining it, it would be quite hard to make on a lathe since the sidewalls are so small. SP just does it the lazy way, polish a piece of extruded aluminum. That's why the sizes are so far off if you ever take a vernier to them.

[MANN]

So all I ever hear is how good brass shoots, its so smooth, best barrels, blah, blah, ......

This is not true. The material has nothing to do with how well it shoots. It all depends on the smoothness of the bore.

Pointless??

Yes

[Duzzy]

The material can have an effect. Brass for instance may tarnish unless treated, both the tarnishing and the treatment might affect tolerances, how much temperature differences change the metal is another thing to consider.

But generally the smoothest bore is probably a good bet for a single piece barrel, for an insert kit you want smooth, stable, and sized correctly.

IMHO.

[DevilMan]

to make things smooth I would take some metal polish, rub it on a battle swab (old one thta you don't want/need anymore) and chuck it up in a drill...

run it it in and out of the barrel/inserts a few times to polish it up nice n smooth.... Don't do it too much or you'll drastically change the bore size....

YMMV,

I don't claim to be an engineer and am not responsible for you jackin up your shiznit!!!

DM

[DevilMan]

To make things smooth I would take some metal polish, rub it on a battle swab (old one thta you don't want/need anymore) and chuck it up in a drill...

Run it it in and out of the barrel/inserts a few times to polish it up nice n smooth..... Don't do it too much or you'll drastically change the bore size....

YMMV,

I don't claim to be an engineer and am not responsible for you jackin up your shiznit!!!

Oh and afterwards give it a good liberal coating of Rain X on the inside of the barrel.... that should shed any broken paint fast enough.... WD40 should work as well....

DM

[MANN]

Oh and afterwards give it a good liberal coating of Rain X on the inside of the barrel.... that should shed any broken paint fast enough.... WD40 should work as well....

DM

Another thing that is not true. Rainx will not help clean paint out of a barrel.