G-Force/PTP patent issue?

[Beemer]

Guys- How about we just stop posting in this useless, informationless, slandering thread and let it die the death it deserves.

Or it could be removed. But THIS is AO and you can have your say or make a thread.

See my warning in above post.

[punkncat]

Dont count your chickens just yet. Rabid has alluded to PTP enforcing their IP. The only company they could do that with is G-Force.

This is the quote. You can find it yourselves if you like. Apparently I had misread/misunderstood what was written a few posts below that hinted that a letter had possibly been sent.

In spite of that, it doesn't change the fact that there could be serious issues at play and many of the questions I pose are worth consideration.

[punkncat]

Beemer,

These guys aren't bothering me. I don't take it personally and have not been offended. Unless they. or I, have broken some forum rule, I would really appreciate if you just left it. They are entitled to their opinion as much as I.

Oh, and the vine and reading in some ways are equal IMO. Thanks for the clarification.

[Beemer]

Beemer,

These guys aren't bothering me. I don't take it personally and have not been offended. Unless they have broken some forum rule, I would really appreciate if you just left it. They are entitled to their opinion as much as I.

Ya no need for PMs huh. You know yours and others posts were removed for a reason from the other thread.

You shouldnt make a quote like that with out the source. These guys will toast ya.
I predict you will remove it on your own. I will edit, ban or lock it before I remove it as always.

[craltal]

All you are doing is stirring the pot. You also are assuming that what you read is fact, which is far from the case. It sounds to me like it's pure conjecture all around. G-Force addressed your concern in the other thread. Just because he decided not to elaborate and got annoyed by your inference of wrongdoing doesn't mean he has anything to hide, or is even doing anything illicit.

I don't know how many more times we can say it, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH A PATENT THESE FRAMES WOULD NOT BE COMING OUT

Given that you are STILL vague about the "source" of your information, why on earth should be believe you on this subject? If it was a reliable source, why not just tell us (and I don't consider some random quote from an unnamed online forum even remotely reliable.)

[nevtangle]

You're probably not going to get either side to answer your question in a public forum. G-Force lists their patent on their site and IS producing a pneumatically assisted trigger frame for the automag. That's all that really matters. PTP hasn't produced one and probably won't. Is it the same or does it infringe on PTP's? I really don't care. It's not up to me to know if it does or doesn't. As long as someone finally comes through and puts one on the market.

[Beemer]

Heres a thought for ya Punk. This guy is bringing the product in the HEAT of all the crap.

You think for just one little bit he might have His butt covered.

[punkncat]

Heres a thought for ya Punk. This guy is bringing the product in the HEAT of all the crap.

You think for just one little bit he might have His butt covered.

Sure, I think that is a definate possiblity. I even posted that I thought its possible that his patent may supercede PTP's AND that the products may differ enough to be covered seperately.

I never said any of this was gospel. What is read into by others is for them. I look at it like an open think tank. If something definative comes out of it, more the better.

Those that take it personally or make it so, well that is also for them. I am not.

[going_home]

Heres a thought for ya Punk. This guy is bringing the product in the HEAT of all the crap.
You think for just one little bit he might have His butt covered.

Honestly I'd like to see GForce make all the mag heads on the pre-buy list very happy by shipping quality product,
AND I'd like to see Pro Team come out with a new Micro body along with a sleeper pneumatic frame !

New toys are only a good thing for the mag community.
Theres enough sand box for everyone to play in.

[Smoothice]

here's another thought punpkin.

Look how long ago the gforce thread was started. Its months and months old. Its 20 something pages.

If they were up to no good do you honestly think they would go so public about it?

If a thread just popped up a day ago saying send us your money and the frames are I the mail then you would have grounds to call wolf.

So again I ask you.

What has GForce done to cause you not to trust them?

[punkncat]

All you are doing is stirring the pot. .)

It could be construed as so, but tell me this. What else is going on here that is so much more important? If you were up to something so much more noble, would you have taken the time to reply, again?

Did, at any point, you have to actually think and consider what you were going to say to post here?
Was nothing I posted within the realm of possibility and worth some consideration?

How many of the common posts on a paintball forum meet ANY of this criteria?

[punkncat]

What has GForce done to cause you not to trust them?

To be completly honest, his blowing me off and the later deletion of my original question, along with other things I have read around made me think and speculate on the possibility. Some of those points have already been addressed.

I still contend that the only reason so many of you are getting up in arms so much about it is that you desire, even more than knowing, to have a frame, ANY frame. If PTP has released it first y'all would be clammering for it. It wouldn't matter where it came from or even if it WERE legitimate.

[craltal]

It could be construed as so, but tell me this. What else is going on here that is so much more important? If you were up to something so much more noble, would you have taken the time to reply, again?

Did, at any point, you have to actually think and consider what you were going to say to post here?
Was nothing I posted within the realm of possibility and worth some consideration?

When playing Devil's Advocate the most important part is knowing how far to push the issue and having viable retorts. You are treading dangerously close to the precipice of being irrelevant since you keep using the same vague replies to everyone's arguments. It's actually quite sad, if you ask me.

How many of the common posts on a paintball forum meet ANY of this criteria?

You don't spend much time on MCB, do you? That's the exact reason I do...

'nuff said.

[Beemer]

Honestly I'd like to see GForce make all the mag heads on the pre-buy list very happy by shipping quality product,
AND I'd like to see Pro Team come out with a new Micro body along with a sleeper pneumatic frame !

New toys are only a good thing for the mag community.
Theres enough sand box for everyone to play in.

Well there is this Forum.

http://www.automags.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=43

[Beemer]

You're probably not going to get either side to answer your question in a public forum.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing. But we can try cant we?